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NHL's 24-team Return to Play proposal

CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1278299086651822083

Looks like the NHL is heading toward the 2nd more seasonable option and selecting Toronto and Edmonton as the hub cities.
Finally Toronto gets to host playoffs further than round 1
 
So there will be about the same number of fans in the lower bowl at the start of each period as a regular Leaf game.
 
Frycer14 said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
So a 6% positive rate while players are still only skating informally in small groups. That doesn't sound great.

Seriously. Sports should just be cancelled this year. It sucks, but it's the safest choice.

There seems to be some concern of late that even asymptomatic carriers can end up with long term lung and organ damage. I'm really surprised the NHLPA hasn't put the brakes on.

I think it would be useful to assess the risk of being in the bubble vs the risk of simply living life.  While there's some risk in the bubble, there's also some risk in ordinary life.  Aren't most (all to this point?) of these cases arising, not because of players being back together but through the player's ordinary lives? How much higher is the risk in the bubble?  With daily testing and thoughtful protocols, the two risk levels may be quite similar.  But of course I don't know and there will be uncertainty in how to project such a thing.
 
Zee said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1278299086651822083

Looks like the NHL is heading toward the 2nd more seasonable option and selecting Toronto and Edmonton as the hub cities.
Finally Toronto gets to host playoffs further than round 1

We can win a round and still end up not making the top 8.
 
azzurri63 said:
Happy Canada Day everyone.
Hey Azzurri, I was just wondering where you were hiding.  How you enjoying the beautiful weather we have been having?? Happy Belated Canada day. At least our brethren in the East are getting some hot weather.
 
https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/1278734107330125830

Kind of relieved that the first time a Stanley Cup is raised in the ACC/SBA definitely won't be to another team.
 
That's too bad, I was looking forward to the zoom parade being hosted in Toronto.

All jokes aside, if it were Toronto in the final though...
 
I'd still prefer a shot at lafreniere vs a shot at the "cup".

There was always going to be an asterisk on this, and if the leafs win, it'll be an even larger one what with the advantages of home ice throughout. Sure, there won't be the in-person fan push, but I can imagine other benefits to the home team along with familiarity of the ice itself. This would be a really crappy way to end the streak.
 
princedpw said:
Frycer14 said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
So a 6% positive rate while players are still only skating informally in small groups. That doesn't sound great.

Seriously. Sports should just be cancelled this year. It sucks, but it's the safest choice.

There seems to be some concern of late that even asymptomatic carriers can end up with long term lung and organ damage. I'm really surprised the NHLPA hasn't put the brakes on.

I think it would be useful to assess the risk of being in the bubble vs the risk of simply living life.  While there's some risk in the bubble, there's also some risk in ordinary life.  Aren't most (all to this point?) of these cases arising, not because of players being back together but through the player's ordinary lives? How much higher is the risk in the bubble?  With daily testing and thoughtful protocols, the two risk levels may be quite similar.  But of course I don't know and there will be uncertainty in how to project such a thing.

It's a fair point. I think the highest risk seems to be getting infected in local camps around the league, particularly in the US - prior to the hub city bubble entry - and I don't factor that part of ordinary life - it's a decision the pa and league have made to risk the players as part of the preparatory stages. I've read a couple articles (Domi/Price/Marner) in which the players don't seem to be entirely wild about this whole thing, but are going along with it. There's also, quite frankly, a sense of immortality most young men have in their 20s, and that's not good for adhering to protocols or even common sense.

There was a segment on Tuesday on the radio with Marcellus Wiley, and they were talking about the impact of covid on the NFL - and Wiley basically said they'll be tested, and a positive test will essentially be given the same amount of impact as a high ankle sprain - off the field for 2-3 weeks. Basically his point was that this will simply be part of playing football for the year.

I see this as teams playing fast and loose with their players' health. Which, quite frankly, is not off-brand for the NFL's history.
 
Frycer14 said:
I'd still prefer a shot at lafreniere vs a shot at the "cup".

There was always going to be an asterisk on this, and if the leafs win, it'll be an even larger one what with the advantages of home ice throughout. Sure, there won't be the in-person fan push, but I can imagine other benefits to the home team along with familiarity of the ice itself. This would be a really crappy way to end the streak.
I'll take it. A Cup is a Cup
 
Zee said:
Frycer14 said:
I'd still prefer a shot at lafreniere vs a shot at the "cup".

There was always going to be an asterisk on this, and if the leafs win, it'll be an even larger one what with the advantages of home ice throughout. Sure, there won't be the in-person fan push, but I can imagine other benefits to the home team along with familiarity of the ice itself. This would be a really crappy way to end the streak.
I'll take it. A Cup is a Cup

Me too. Then again in 2021 and 2022.
 
Zee said:
Frycer14 said:
I'd still prefer a shot at lafreniere vs a shot at the "cup".

There was always going to be an asterisk on this, and if the leafs win, it'll be an even larger one what with the advantages of home ice throughout. Sure, there won't be the in-person fan push, but I can imagine other benefits to the home team along with familiarity of the ice itself. This would be a really crappy way to end the streak.
I'll take it. A Cup is a Cup
At my age I do want them to win asap, even with an asterisk.  Don't know how long I will be on this road.
 
Zee said:
Frycer14 said:
I'd still prefer a shot at lafreniere vs a shot at the "cup".

There was always going to be an asterisk on this, and if the leafs win, it'll be an even larger one what with the advantages of home ice throughout. Sure, there won't be the in-person fan push, but I can imagine other benefits to the home team along with familiarity of the ice itself. This would be a really crappy way to end the streak.
I'll take it. A Cup is a Cup

Same. Also, if anything, winning the Cup this year would be more of an accomplishment for any of the teams in the play-in round. They?ll have to win an extra series for the privilege. Winning the Cup
If there?s a Cup awarded this year, it won?t be any easier to win than a normal season, just more chaotic. 

If people want to put an asterisk on it, that?s on them. There?s no asterisk on the lockout Cups, there shouldn?t be one on this.
 
I don't think the issue is easier or harder, I think the issue is that whoever wins this little tournament will be doing so in conditions that will be drastically different than the games that took place during the regular season.

The idea of an asterisk is, obviously, shorthand for a larger question of what a cup won under these circumstances would mean. If someone out there would be really excited by the Leafs winning, if the claims of it being tainted wouldn't both them, then I guess that's their prerogative. Likewise, if you think that most of what makes your favourite team winning a championship would be absent and, as a result, it wouldn't do much for you that's equally valid.

Personally, I'm not sure how I'll feel about all this. I find it pretty hard to imagine I'll be super interested in the games but I suppose we'll see.

(And, for what it's worth, I do think that if the Devils hadn't developed into a powerhouse franchise that won other cups that people would discount their '95 cup as being a freak occurrence as a result of a tainted season.)
 
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1279057076128538625

Interesting that they're trying to cram in return to play measures, a CBA extension, and Olympics participation all in one big bundle.
 
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NHL tryin? to sneak in some CBA hoohie
 

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