Nonis using depth to go shopping....
- Thread starter BlueWhiteBlood
- Start date
BlueWhiteBlood
New member
Bender said:
I think there might be a bit of leverage there also. I get the feeling that Bozak really doesn't want to leave the situation he's in right now for a few reasons. Obviously he won't do much better than having Kessel/ Lupul or Kessel/ JvR finishing passes he throws out, if he'd do better at all. He more than likely will not land a top center job at his next destination, if that's not the Leafs. This makes it much harder to get a bigger contract if he's getting less ice-time playing 3rd or perhaps 2nd line for another team. He's good on face-offs, but I don't think he's so good that he commands 1-2 million extra on his AAV.
He hasn't earned 5-5.5 million a year IMO. I really think he should sign a 2-3 year deal with the Leafs for 3-4 a pop and earn the big retirement contract, instead of chasing it now and leaving a good thing with the Leafs. Sometimes the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Of course it could go well for him some place else but I don't see him improving on his stats, given another and new situation.
Zee
Active member
Nonis didn't mention anything about buying out his own players. Everyone is expecting Komisarek but I think it makes no sense to waste a compliance buyout on a guy with 1 year left. Save both buyouts and you can use them next summer if necessary. Grabovski might become a candidate next summer if he has another bad year.
Seymore Pucks
New member
Good points Zee. Although Grabs had a poor season in terms of scoring a lot due to a change in role but did he have the best defensive stats for a forward at even strength? Sorry in advance if that is a lazy question. I really hope he is better next season.Zee said:
Britishbulldog
Active member
Zee said:
I agree with NOT buying out Komisarek. I have hoped that he would be traded to NYI and our 1st (21st overall) for DiPietro and NYI's 1st (15th overall) and use one of the amnesty buyouts on DiPietro.
As for Grabovski, I also believe that this year was a hiccup and that he will be 50 + points again next year.
Jolly good show chaps
Member
Britishbulldog said:
Would that be worth doing to move up 6 places? Surely we'd want their first without giving up ours. Then try to flip both firsts for a top 8 pick.
Chev-boyar-sky
New member
Jolly good show chaps said:
Yeah I don't imagine the Leafs owners would be too keen on paying a lot of dough to move up 6 spots.
A DiPietro buyout would cost the Islanders the 15th overall, or a good prospect. Whether they want Komi or not is completely up to them. The Leafs either pay Komi not to play this year or pay DiPietro not to play this year, so it's not like they gain much by moving their own first.
Kin
New member
Zee said:
It only "makes no sense" if we pretend that Nonis isn't running a business as well as a hockey team. Buying out Komisarek saves the team more than a million dollars. While there are people who want the Leafs to use these rare mechanisms the team has to save millions of dollars to, instead, spend millions of dollars, in fact tens of miilions of dollars, that doesn't make it so. That Nonis hasn't come out in public to say "Instead of using the compliance buyouts to improve the hockey team, we're going to use them to make Rogers and Bell a little richer" doesn't mean he won't do it.
Britishbulldog
Active member
Chev-boyar-sky said:
I am definitely up for the Leafs to gain the 15th pick without losing the 21st. I was just hoping that it is realistic.
Same as Vancouver. With them looking to fix the goaltending situation as well as move Edler's $5.0 MIL contract I was wondering if Liles for Luongo, Edler and Van 1st pick (24th overall) would work.
That would use up both buyouts but gain 2 extra 1st round picks.
bustaheims
Active member
Britishbulldog said:
Vancouver laughs and hangs up at that one. It would be a more valuable move for them to buy out Luongo than to make that trade. Edler's contract is a very good one. He does not get moved to shed salary unless there's actual value coming back.
Britishbulldog
Active member
bustaheims said:
Now that Schneider is gone it's a moot point.
The weird thing is I think Luongo was certain that he was being moved and now he is stuck in Vancouver.
Besides DiPietro is there any other players that should be bought out by a poor team? I can't think of any. Maybe Horcoff from Edmonton for Edmonton's 1st pick next year.
SOURCE:http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2014/01/11/maple_leafs_gm_nonis_refuses_to_sacrifice_future_for_shortterm_fix_cox.html
"I?m still trying to see if there?s a deal out there that can change our look but not hurt us in the long term," he said. "He reiterated once again that he has no intention of trading either defenceman Jake Gardiner or centre Nazem Kadri, and that the only way either would be moved would be for a blue-chip player of similar age. Similarly, defenceman Morgan Rielly, 2013 first-round pick Fredrik Gauthier and the team?s first-round pick in June are all basically untouchable."
Jake Gardiner Born: July 4, 1990 (age 23), Minneapolis
Nazem Kadri Born: October 6, 1990 (age 23), London
John Tavares Born: September 20, 1990 (age 23), Mississauga
Johnny is a blue-chip of similar age Dave. Just saying.
"I?m still trying to see if there?s a deal out there that can change our look but not hurt us in the long term," he said. "He reiterated once again that he has no intention of trading either defenceman Jake Gardiner or centre Nazem Kadri, and that the only way either would be moved would be for a blue-chip player of similar age. Similarly, defenceman Morgan Rielly, 2013 first-round pick Fredrik Gauthier and the team?s first-round pick in June are all basically untouchable."
Jake Gardiner Born: July 4, 1990 (age 23), Minneapolis
Nazem Kadri Born: October 6, 1990 (age 23), London
John Tavares Born: September 20, 1990 (age 23), Mississauga
Johnny is a blue-chip of similar age Dave. Just saying.
hockeyfan1
New member
Green Leaf said:
Tavares wouldn't have looked out of place in a Maple Leafs jersey.
