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He may be untradeable based on the Sens asking price.sickbeast said:Nick Kypreos says he thinks both players are currently untradeable. He could be right. However I would be surprised if no one wants Karlsson. He's an elite player. Heck, the Leafs could use him.
Kypreos said he may be untradeable because the allegations are unproven and could be false. He said teams need to know exactly what happened between the two players and their wives before taking either of them in a trade.Zee said:He may be untradeable based on the Sens asking price.sickbeast said:Nick Kypreos says he thinks both players are currently untradeable. He could be right. However I would be surprised if no one wants Karlsson. He's an elite player. Heck, the Leafs could use him.
Guilt Trip said:Id be willing to bet that the Karlsson's hired a PI to look into this matter before going to the authorities. As for Kypreos' comments. There isn't a gm who wouldn't take #65 right now for the right price.
sickbeast said:
Nik the Trik said:So to step back from the tabloid-y nature of all of this...is there anything to say about why this is going on? Is it just that Melnyk's a terrible owner? A freakish run of bad luck?
I've long maintained that the Sens' situation, where they claimed to not be profitable in any year they didn't make the playoffs but seemed to be forced by their owner to try and be profitable every year, was the least manageable organizational gameplan you could have. Does all the penny pinching lead to corner-cutting that leads to this sort of chaos? I know it's hard to connect the Karlsson-Hoffman stuff to the team but I can't help but feel that maybe a more professional environment wouldn't allow for that sort of thing.
Significantly Insignificant said:This whole scene reminds me of the 1990-1991 Leafs. Wheels came off, rumours were rampant. Team needed to be blown up. I think Nik has a valid point. Stuff like this starts at the top. Organizations need to be run professionally. I sometimes wonder if that was the real reason for bringing in a guy like Lou. Not because Dubas didn't know how to do the hockey stuff, but maybe he didn't know how to do, or at least didn't have a lot of experience with, the non-hockey stuff.
Guilt Trip said:There isn't a gm who wouldn't take #65 right now for the right price.
herman said:Nik the Trik said:So to step back from the tabloid-y nature of all of this...is there anything to say about why this is going on? Is it just that Melnyk's a terrible owner? A freakish run of bad luck?
I've long maintained that the Sens' situation, where they claimed to not be profitable in any year they didn't make the playoffs but seemed to be forced by their owner to try and be profitable every year, was the least manageable organizational gameplan you could have. Does all the penny pinching lead to corner-cutting that leads to this sort of chaos? I know it's hard to connect the Karlsson-Hoffman stuff to the team but I can't help but feel that maybe a more professional environment wouldn't allow for that sort of thing.
Significantly Insignificant said:This whole scene reminds me of the 1990-1991 Leafs. Wheels came off, rumours were rampant. Team needed to be blown up. I think Nik has a valid point. Stuff like this starts at the top. Organizations need to be run professionally. I sometimes wonder if that was the real reason for bringing in a guy like Lou. Not because Dubas didn't know how to do the hockey stuff, but maybe he didn't know how to do, or at least didn't have a lot of experience with, the non-hockey stuff.
I think when you cut staffing down to the bone, everyone is forced into doing more than he or she can effectively carry for very long, and it looks like the 'organization' brushed away a lot of the little details and non-priorities to the point that it has compounded into a turd pile in the middle of their living room floor about 2 ft from the ceiling.
Nik the Trik said:Hoffman and Caryk on the allegations:
Hoffman and Caryk react to story
It's kind of fun to try and work out all of the possible scenarios here:
1. The Karlssons are right and Hoffman and Caryk are complete whackjobs
2. The Karlssons are wrong, acting in bad faith and a bunch of NHL wives are basically the meanest of mean girls to this one innocent person.
3. Some sort of honest mistake.