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Frank E said:Deebo said:I want to hear from MadFerret.
Who was the other one?
Sucker Punch.
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Frank E said:Deebo said:I want to hear from MadFerret.
Who was the other one?
On the fourth hand, isn't everyone upset that their own team couldn't beat that?Nik the Trik said:Wow. So, let's just sum up. The Sens:
- Didn't get a definite 1st round pick in 2019
- Didn't get a prospect taken in the top 15 or a pick that's likely to be
- Didn't dump the Ryan deal
- Probably won't get two 1sts
I mean, on the one hand, that's not very good. On the other hand I think we all predicted that Ottawa wouldn't do very well here. But on the third hand...if you're a Dallas fan aren't you a bit upset you couldn't beat that?
Bender said:On the fourth hand, isn't everyone upset that their own team couldn't beat that?
Nik the Trik said:Bender said:On the fourth hand, isn't everyone upset that their own team couldn't beat that?
Maybe, but I think the trade condition makes it pretty clear that he wasn't getting dealt to the Eastern Conference no matter what.
Also, legitimately, there are some teams where it wouldn't have made much sense(Nashville, for instance).
mr grieves said:Obviously Karlsson wasn't going to get traded within the conference, but it'd be like the Kings trading Doughty to us for, like, Grundstrom, Brooks, and the two Connors. Plus the picks. -- You'd think Dallas, say, would've been able to make something a bit better than that happen.
But on the third hand...if you're a Dallas fan aren't you a bit upset you couldn't beat that?
cabber24 said:The return was better then what NYI for Tavares.
I forgot about himDeebo said:I want to hear from MadFerret.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Just to be a contrarian, I'm going to say that it's no sure thing that Karlsson will ever be as good as he was. That injury he took ... OK it's still a horrible trade.
L K said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Just to be a contrarian, I'm going to say that it's no sure thing that Karlsson will ever be as good as he was. That injury he took ... OK it's still a horrible trade.
I guess but coming off injury he still put up 60 points. If he isn?t the best defensman in the league he?s still a #1
Nik the Trik said:Here's something I was idly thinking about...
In a vacuum, would you rather have what the Sens got for Karlsson or what the Habs got for Pacioretty? The Karlsson return is almost certainly more stuff just in sheer numbers but for Pacioretty the Habs may have gotten the best prospect in either deal, the best pick and even potentially the best roster player.
Heroic Shrimp said:Frank E said:Deebo said:I want to hear from MadFerret.
Who was the other one?
Sucker Punch.
Zee said:Nik the Trik said:Here's something I was idly thinking about...
In a vacuum, would you rather have what the Sens got for Karlsson or what the Habs got for Pacioretty? The Karlsson return is almost certainly more stuff just in sheer numbers but for Pacioretty the Habs may have gotten the best prospect in either deal, the best pick and even potentially the best roster player.
I think you answered your own question there.
The Ottawa Senators claimed that they were investigating the matter but no investigation occurred.
bustaheims said:Their blueline is excellent, no doubt. Probably the best in the league now. I just don't think they have the firepower up front to make it out of the 2nd round.
CarltonTheBear said:They only need to worry about Vegas/Anaheim/LA/Calgary or maybe a cross-over wildcard team from the Central to get to the Conference finals though. I think they're a pretty clear step-above the other Pacific division teams.
Nik the Trik said:My only caveat there is that it feels like that's something we could have said about a bunch of teams in the past before age caught up with them in a hurry.
Their collection of talent under 30 isn't great. Under 28 and it's pretty sketchy.