Phaneuf To Sens
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Colin Greening will join the Leafs, not the Marlies: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/greening-set-to-join-injury-depleted-maple-leafs/
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
With all the injuries - and the possibility of Kadri being suspended - I figured that was a possibility.
Highlander
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So Greening signed an 8 mill 3 year extension and was in the minors and now is with the Leafs big team.
What went south with his game? Sounds like he had some potential. Perhaps he will find it again with Babs
What went south with his game? Sounds like he had some potential. Perhaps he will find it again with Babs
Highlander
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It look like the Leafs are going to finally stick to a plan of a true rebuild. How refreshing to actually want the team to lose whilst still putting up a fight in the loss. So keep the true tank going, lets get another couple of high round draft picks al la Polak and Bozak. So exciting to think in addition to Nylander, Brown, Kapanen, Leipsic, Johnson, Timashov that we could be adding Lanne or Matthews.
GhostofPotvin29
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CarltonTheBear said:
Thanks, so I guess really depends what sort of arrangement they worked out. Was wondering because it would seem pointless for him to be involved in the trade but he must still count as one of Ottawa's contracts then.
Highlander
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To bad for Matty, perhaps he thought he would get another chance in the Bigs, now looks like a one way ticket to Palukaville. Probably play out this year for the Marlies and that will be it.
Potvin29 said:
I don't think we'll ever get any specific details from this, but it's pretty interesting. So it sounds like the Senators would be loaning Frattin specifically to the Toronto Marlies organization, not necessarily the Toronto Maple Leafs organization. So the Marlies would be the one paying Frattin while he's on loan to them, just like they pay a player who they have signed to an AHL contract.
My question would be what happens if Frattin's salary was more than $950k and some of it counted against his NHL club's salary cap? For example, say Chicago trades Bickell to Arizona and then Arizona "loans" Bickell to Chicago's AHL affiliate (Rockford) and arranges for Rockford to pay his salary. Bickell would still be on Arizona's reserve list, so would they still technically be responsible for his salary cap hit?
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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CarltonTheBear said:
I would think so, as the player doesn't have a contract with Chicago, they can't be held rsponsible for that salary.
At the same time, the team with him on the reserve list would need to have the excess salary count against their cap as there is nowhere else for it to go.
If it vanished into the ether we'd see teams using it as a cap circumvention maneuver constantly.
Patrick said:
No of course not, I wasn't suggesting the cap hit would disappear. But Chicago would still be able to get rid of Bickell's cap hit and a team like Arizona wouldn't care because they aren't anywhere near the cap and they aren't paying his contract. Chicago would just have to slide them a pick for helping them facilitate it and for wasting a spot on their reserve list on Bickell.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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CarltonTheBear said:
There is zero chance that the team with the player on their reserve list isn't responsible for anything over the 950k.
In your scenario Arizona would absolutely be paying the rest of that contract.
So really the only teams this would be an option for are rich teams that suck.
Welcome to Toronto.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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http://theleafsnation.com/2016/2/10/a-farewell-to-a-captain
A decent little write-up of Dion' tenure in Toronto.
A decent little write-up of Dion' tenure in Toronto.
ZBBM
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Patrick said:
Much of what he writes is true, but what baffles me is why his offense dried up. Sure, he was never going to keep scoring at the pace he did in best Calgary years -- that was a Kulemin-30-goals-level anomaly -- but he went, what, months there at the end w/o a PP goal? Hard to figure.
In any case, like Lou said, they had to make this deal. Dion's tenure as C will be remembered as the capstone of Burke's abortive plans.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I think part of it was quality of competition and the amount he was asked to play. I think when you're not an elite guy, you have to conserve energy somewhat when you're out there for 25+ minutes a night against the best players in the league.
As far as the PP goes, he should have been better, but a lot of his success came from having a PP in Calgary that was designed to have him open for the bomb from the point. They also used Iginla backdoor so that teams couldn't focus solely on closing down the point.
Simply put he was asked to be something he wasn't in Toronto and it's hard to really blame him for that, I wish him well in Ottawa.