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Phil Kessel

This trade is up there with the raycroft for Rask
And the Kordic for courtnall.
Dougie Hamilton is looking good and I'd take seguin over kessel straight up right now.
 
Lee-bo said:
This trade is up there with the raycroft for Rask
And the Kordic for courtnall.
Dougie Hamilton is looking good and I'd take seguin over kessel straight up right now.

Build a time machine
 
TML fan said:
Lee-bo said:
This trade is up there with the raycroft for Rask
And the Kordic for courtnall.
Dougie Hamilton is looking good and I'd take seguin over kessel straight up right now.

Build a time machine
Just waiting for my googilypin to arrive. Bought one on eBay last week
 
Lee-bo said:
TML fan said:
Lee-bo said:
This trade is up there with the raycroft for Rask
And the Kordic for courtnall.
Dougie Hamilton is looking good and I'd take seguin over kessel straight up right now.

Build a time machine
Just waiting for my googilypin to arrive. Bought one on eBay last week

And I trust the flux capacitor is all in order?
 
TML fan said:
Lee-bo said:
TML fan said:
Lee-bo said:
This trade is up there with the raycroft for Rask
And the Kordic for courtnall.
Dougie Hamilton is looking good and I'd take seguin over kessel straight up right now.

Build a time machine
Just waiting for my googilypin to arrive. Bought one on eBay last week

And I trust the flux capacitor is all in order?
Made in China so I know it works great!
 
I was musing upon this during the game tonight v Buffalo (as noted in the game thread).

So can we trade Kessel for 3 prospects who could make a whole new top line with the 1st pick in next year's draft to come and make it even better?
 
He's on pace for over 200 shots right now.  At his lowest career sv% he'd be due for around 14-15 goals.  If he shoots his career high the rest of the way he'd be over 30.

I expect his luck to change very soon.
 
He had that really good chance on Miller when he ducked into the slot, and Miller read him all the way. Credit Miller with being an experienced goalie and knowing Kessel's tendencies, but I felt that Kessel was pressing on that chance and never really took a look at where Miller was. Under more relaxed circumstances, I think Kessel takes that extra split second to look up and go far side.
 
He got a first assist on the Franson goal so I really don't mind that he's not scoring provided the other guys can bury his passes.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
Also, the fact that you guys want to trade a 25 year old sniper in the hopes that you get a draft pick and some prospects in the hopes that said draft pick and said prospects turn out is a tad curious to me.....not nutman curious, but curious none the less.

Go ahead nik, tell me why I'm wrong.

You're right. That does present a conundrum. I suppose to come up with an example that might convince you of the potential wisdom of such a move I'd have to think of a situation where a young, Phil Kessel-type sniper was traded by a team for draft picks and it ended up working out pretty well for them.

So let me put my thinking cap on. Has a talented young sniper, very much like the Maple Leafs' own Phil Kessel, ever been traded for Draft Picks and had it work out well for the team trading him...gosh, that's a tricky one. If only there were a recent and obvious example that hit close to home of a player, who plays like Phil Kessel, that was traded for a bunch of valuable draft picks.

Well, I'm stumped.
 
TML fan said:
Remember, the goal was to build a sustainable winner, not a flash in the pan. Perhaps the Leafs knew they couldn't do that until they had a constant stream of well developed young players coming through the system?

I'd say that your hypothetical plan doesn't make a lot of sense. In as much it would have a team that has developed a system that has a constant stream of well developed players having come through it for years but was also at some point bad enough for a sustained period of time to add the sort of elite high level talent through the draft that can then be used as the backbone for a championship club.

"Building while being competitive" is essentially the same thing we've heard since before even the JFJ era started and though it's something that's gone under a few PR shake-ups since all we've really seen is the unending accumulation of proof that it doesn't really work, regardless of how well-regarded a GM you have.

So it's not just a plan the Leafs need but a good plan.
 
Nik Pollock said:
TML fan said:
Remember, the goal was to build a sustainable winner, not a flash in the pan. Perhaps the Leafs knew they couldn't do that until they had a constant stream of well developed young players coming through the system?

I'd say that your hypothetical plan doesn't make a lot of sense. In as much it would have a team that has developed a system that has a constant stream of well developed players having come through it for years but was also at some point bad enough for a sustained period of time to add the sort of elite high level talent through the draft that can then be used as the backbone for a championship club.

"Building while being competitive" is essentially the same thing we've heard since before even the JFJ era started and though it's something that's gone under a few PR shake-ups since all we've really seen is the unending accumulation of proof that it doesn't really work, regardless of how well-regarded a GM you have.

So it's not just a plan the Leafs need but a good plan.

This is true, but to rely on stocking your team with players so bad that you're guaranteed a bottom five finish doesn't seem feasible. I can't imagine a GM actually trying to sell that plan and having their employers feel ok about it generally. Also, if we're looking at ways to build a team, Chiarelli didn't go that route in Boston. Thornton was traded for a pile of garbage essentially before he came. They picked well and four of their players (all picked in the second round) panned out.
 

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