Predators @ Leafs - Nov. 18th, 7:30pm - TSN, TSN 1050

[GhostofPotvin29]

Remember when a bunch of people were saying the Leafs should replace Carlyle with Laviolette? The Preds are showing why.

I was leading the charge on that. He'd have been a perfect coach for the players on this team.

I just find it funny how with Wilson the media and fans were all over him for slow starts but I don't know that I've seen a single article about it for Carlyle yet?  I don't really think it's on either of them but it's pretty striking how petty the media can be when they don't like someone personally.

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

Franson getting outmuscled by Cullen there wasn't exactly impressive. Roy beating Phaneuf to the puck isn't great, but, Roy is one of the better skaters in the game. He's gonna get ahead of a lot of people.

They just showed the replay a couple times. Phaneuf took 1 or 2 strides and then did his patented coasting. I have a hard time believing that he couldn't have got to Roy if he'd kept his feet moving.

 

[ZBBM]

Here's the bottom line: the defense of this team hasn't gotten one whit better since Phaneuf came.  Is that a coincidence?  Let me answer for you: No, it is not.  All you apologists, defenders, promoters ? give it up already.  It's time to trade him for what you can, and begin to build a new defense around Rielly and Gardiner.  This team will never ever go anywhere with Phaneuf "leading" the way.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Kadri with Kessel now please.

No, the chemistry is just continuing to develop in the 50 games that Kadri has dragged Clarkson around the ice.

Kadri gets to play with Winnik/Clarkson while Bozak gets Kessel forever as he counts his money.

Kadri will be criticized for his offensive production too.

 

[Courtnall]

Please oh please just blow up the team. This core isn't good enough. They're plain awful. This isn't even a couple pieces shy, this is a disaster of a team. Year after year, same old results. Nothing changes. BLOW IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[2badknees]

Remember when a bunch of people were saying the Leafs should replace Carlyle with Laviolette? The Preds are showing why.

I was leading the charge on that. He'd have been a perfect coach for the players on this team.

Cause he's american? I think some of you guys are giving coaching way to much credit. Nashville is largely better this year because Rinne is healthy.

 

[bustaheims]

Here's the bottom line: the defense of this team hasn't gotten one whit better since Phaneuf came.  Is that a coincidence?  Let me answer for you: No, it is not.  All you apologists, defenders, promoters ? give it up already.  It's time to trade him for what you can, and begin to build a new defense around Rielly and Gardiner.  This team will never ever go anywhere with Phaneuf "leading" the way.

He's one man on an 18 player defensive unit. Yes. 18 players. Every skater is responsible for defensive play. He's not going to be able to improve things by himself when the team doesn't seem to be able to play defence as a unit. Plain and simple. Defence isn't an individual job, it's a team responsibility.

 

[azzurri63]

I know people want to say that top D men get exposed semi regularly but it seems almost a nightly occurrence with Dion.

And last time I checked Derek Roy wasn't one of those "top players in the league" that Phaneuf is credited with having to play against.

Personally, I'd bench the guy for a game for a start.

Never is going to happen...

Nor should it.

Ya I agree nor should it be just one game I'd sit him out for a while better yet deal him and get his overpaid, lazy work ethic and sh$$ty attitude a** outta town.

 

[ZBBM]

Here's the bottom line: the defense of this team hasn't gotten one whit better since Phaneuf came.  Is that a coincidence?  Let me answer for you: No, it is not.  All you apologists, defenders, promoters ? give it up already.  It's time to trade him for what you can, and begin to build a new defense around Rielly and Gardiner.  This team will never ever go anywhere with Phaneuf "leading" the way.

He's one man on an 18 player defensive unit. Yes. 18 players. Every skater is responsible for defensive play. He's not going to be able to improve things by himself when the team doesn't seem to be able to play defence as a unit. Plain and simple. Defence isn't an individual job, it's a team responsibility.

That's why it's time to get rid of him so somebody (hopefully soon somebody other than RC) can retool the D.

 

[freer]

Kadri with Kessel now please.

No, the chemistry is just continuing to develop in the 50 games that Kadri has dragged Clarkson around the ice.

Randy may actually try it, but you know damn well that Bozak will be back on that first PP unit. Kadri, Kessel and JVR will never play a full game together as long as Randy is coach. No matter how much sense it makes.

Kadri has shown nothing this season. So what indicates to u that Kadri deserves to be on a line with Kessel. Honestly..

 

[TML fan]

Gardner sucks. They shouldn't build an outhouse around him.

 

[ZBBM]

Gardner sucks. They shouldn't build an outhouse around him.

He's got potential but he sure as hell shouldn't be mentored by Phaneuf.

 

[bustaheims]

That's why it's time to get rid of him so somebody (hopefully soon somebody other than RC) can retool the D.

The problem isn't a single individual player. Getting rid of Phaneuf doesn't even begin to address the root of the team's defensive issues. I know you hate the guy, but, seriously . . . one player is not responsible for this mess.

 

[freer]

Gardner sucks. They shouldn't build an outhouse around him.

He's got potential but he sure as hell shouldn't be mentored by Phaneuf.

He may have potential to be a offensive d-man. He should shot the puck when he has a shot. Do not go for a fancy stupid pass. and please take the body. Hit something.

 

[Strangelove]

Kadri with Kessel now please.

No, the chemistry is just continuing to develop in the 50 games that Kadri has dragged Clarkson around the ice.

Randy may actually try it, but you know damn well that Bozak will be back on that first PP unit. Kadri, Kessel and JVR will never play a full game together as long as Randy is coach. No matter how much sense it makes.

Kadri has shown nothing this season. So what indicates to u that Kadri deserves to be on a line with Kessel. Honestly..

His stats? It isn't all about goals and assists, you know, particularly when you've been playing the vast majority of your time with Winnik and Clarkson. His possession numbers are still good, and he's still been extremely good 5 on 5--just as good as Bozak in terms of production, in fact, which is remarkable given that he's stuck playing with Winnik and Clarkson while Kessel carries the other line.

There have been a few good articles written about Kadri's play recently. You should consider reading them.

 

[bakeapples]

What did I miss???

 

[freer]

What did I miss???

Nope nothing... They are playing as well as they did not Saturday

 

[Britishbulldog]

I read that the Leafs had a real easy 1st 20 games and that it was only going to get harder from here on in.

 

[Deebo]

What did I miss???

Dion Phaneuf caused 4 goals against.

 

[Captain Canuck]

Still haven't woken up from Saturday's coma I see!  :