Round 1: Canadiens (A1) vs. Senators (W1)

[cw]

Haven't watched tons of it but didn't expect Ottawa would be down 3-0 (yes, I realize all one goal games...). I thought they'd give the Habs more trouble.

 

[Kin]

I've been to Philly, Buffalo, and Ottawa and never had a problem wearing my jersey. (Granted, Ottawa is pretty much a home game)

I think a lot depends on what you look like, where you're sitting, and who you're with. I can see how two girls by themselves would run into trouble.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/04/20/new-york-caps-fan-tells-of-poor-treatment-at-islanders-arena/

That's the story of how a group of Caps fans, men and women, went to game 3 of the series with the Islanders game and had some pretty awful stuff happen to them.

Like I said, I just don't get the impulse. 

 

[TML fan]

I've been to Philly, Buffalo, and Ottawa and never had a problem wearing my jersey. (Granted, Ottawa is pretty much a home game)

I think a lot depends on what you look like, where you're sitting, and who you're with. I can see how two girls by themselves would run into trouble.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/04/20/new-york-caps-fan-tells-of-poor-treatment-at-islanders-arena/

That's the story of how a group of Caps fans, men and women, went to game 3 of the series with the Islanders game and had some pretty awful stuff happen to them.

Like I said, I just don't get the impulse.

They don't write stories about the ones who had a pleasant experience.

 

[Kin]

They don't write stories about the ones who had a pleasant experience.

My point being that this is not "two girls by themselves". It seems pretty equally likely to happen to people regardless of the group they're in or what they look like. My point was never that it will happen all the time, just that it happens enough that I don't see why anyone would do it.

 

[TML fan]

They don't write stories about the ones who had a pleasant experience.

My point being that this is not "two girls by themselves". It seems pretty equally likely to happen to people regardless of the group they're in or what they look like. My point was never that it will happen all the time, just that it happens enough that I don't see why anyone would do it.

It's not likely to happen to a group of large men. It's more likely to happen to a group if the group have women in it. I worked sporting events for 5 years and nearly every single incident similar to above involved women in the group being harassed. The people who do this kind of thing are cowards and are generally not going to pick a fight they can't win.

 

[Kin]

It's not likely to happen to a group of large men.

From my experience the opposite is true. Nearly every incident I've seen of this has been two dude-bros or groups of dude-bros yelling "Come at me". 

 

[TML fan]

It's not likely to happen to a group of large men.

From my experience the opposite is true. Nearly every incident I've seen of this has been two dude-bros or groups of dude-bros yelling "Come at me".

Well, dude-bros are a whole other thing, and most of the time they are shirtless anyway. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

There's been incidents like this in 4 different games now during the 1st round, including fan fights in the MTL-OTT and VAN-CGY series':

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25156438

 

[rdowdall]

There's been incidents like this in 4 different games now during the 1st round, including fan fights in the MTL-OTT and VAN-CGY series':

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25156438

We are getting in to soccer territory.  Is it time to crack open each others heads and feast on the goo inside?

 

[louisstamos]

There's been incidents like this in 4 different games now during the 1st round, including fan fights in the MTL-OTT and VAN-CGY series':

http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/eye-on-hockey/25156438

We are getting in to soccer territory.  Is it time to crack open each others heads and feast on the goo inside?

Yes, Kent, I believe so.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

It still boggles my mind that crowds aren't seperated in NA.

 

[Kin]

It still boggles my mind that crowds aren't seperated in NA.

Well, it's different from Europe where unlike something like Spurs-Arsenal you're not likely to have two rivals playing in the same city, let alone the same neighbourhood. So the idea of a large contingent of away fans is kind of a new phenomenon.

 

[lamajama]

Man the "new" intro's for HNIC is just so lame.

It probably costs about $5.95 for some 3rd grader to write the script and some deep voiced
bum to announce it.

Just awful.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

These announcers are acting like Stone's wrist is being held together by duct tape.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Haha wow, the refs called the Senators for a face-off guy getting kicked out twice.

I've literally never seen that called all year.

https://twitter.com/myregularface/status/591040250916392960

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I know that I've complained about Rogers' broadcasts, but seeing Elliotte Friedman being forced to use the "puck wall" might be the saddest thing.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Ottawa 1  Montreal 0  Montreal leads series 3 games to 1.

Chalk one up to Ottawa goaltender Craig Anderson who has now stopped 75 out of 77 shots in Games 3 & 4 combined.  In this Ottawa win here in Game 4, Anderson outperformed Montreal's Carey Price in preserving the victory for the Sens.

Ottawa rookie Mike Hoffman scored the lone goal Ottawa needed.

Perhaps it was the day off that Senators coach Dave Cameron gave the team, to take their minds off the pressure of facing elimination, or it was merely a sturdy resolve on the part of the Senators in wanting to stay alive in this series.  Whatever.

Game 5 is Sunday in Montreal at 7PM.

 

[Coco-puffs]

Haha wow, the refs called the Senators for a face-off guy getting kicked out twice.

I've literally never seen that called all year.

https://twitter.com/myregularface/status/591040250916392960

Hoffman did hit the linesman's hand in that slow-mo- hence the puck came out during the drop.  Its an automatic penalty if two players from the same team get thrown out for faceoff infractions on the same faceoff.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

http://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/33nkep/why_do_people_like_pk_subban/

I thought this was a great write up of just how awful PK Subban is on the ice.

Why do people like PK Subban? While watching regular season games my friends and I constantly ask eachother and ourselves this question. Off of the ice, PK seems like a great guy. I have seen his interviews and his commercials and he makes me believe that he is sincere in his personality and is an enjoyable person. His PR game is more than admirable, and his charity work, comedy, and interactions with fans are wonderful. However, on the ice PK seems to be a completely different person.

I hope that everyone will bear with me in this wall of text and video link that I have constructed, but all of these interactions have lead me to so intensely dislike a person who, off ice, is clearly a terrific guy.

How can someone have such different personalities on ice and off? This is my opinion.

Why do people like PK?
PK Subban is notorious for diving This year he has lead the league in embellishment penalties and has been fined $2,000 on February 4th And $3,000 on May 20th for his Third infraction of the season. PK is the first and only player to ever be fined Twice for embellishment.
Diving incidents
    [March 20th, 2015 (Fined) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-OjoLxW_5M
    [John Scott facewash] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Korrjug37lw
    [Bruins playoff Game] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fd57VNE6Kg
    [Pretending to be hit] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EHLQ7NNiwQ
    [Dive Vs NY Rangers] http://gfycat.com/FrighteningFrequentCowrie
    [Embarrassing leap Vs Bruins] http://www.gfycat.com/AromaticMixedCockroach
    [October 16th, 2014 (arguable)] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IInpXddoiLA
Although there are a surprising few on Youtube.
While players of every team do make the occasional dive, most players mature and grow out of this habit, much like Sidney Crosby or Brad Marchand seem to have grown away from it. No other player in the league dives as often or as obviously as PK, and as the seasons pass he seems to only be doing it more often, rather than shy away as would be expected of maturing players.
Slashing Mark Stone The slash is intentional no matter how it's looked at. Whether he intended on hitting Stone in an unpadded area is arguable. Subban injured the rookie and was, according to NHL rules, rightfully thrown from the game. What I'm interested in is Subban's consistent responses to be called for penalties. While Subban may have not realized that he truly injured Stone, there is no denying that he took two hands on his stick and intentionally brought it down with force toward Stone. Subban immediately jumps up and down and screams to the officials that it is not deserving of a penalty, and seems to be absolutely shocked that an official could make such a call.

Earlier in the game Subban swung at an airborne puck and brought his stick down onto Ottawa forward Jean-Gabriel Pageau Again, note PK's response. He throws up his arms and contests with the officials as if he cannot even imagine that he could have done something wrong, despite clearly knocking the Ottawa player to the ice. The carelessness of Subban is apparent in the amount of damage he could have done had Pageau not been wearing a visor. The tomahawk of PK's stick would have hit him with a tremendous amount of force to his face.

Dirty Player

Patrice Bergeron The Boston Bruins program "Behind the B" captures a valuable insight into Subban's reasoning. Following Bergeron into the corner, PK swings hard at the back or Bergeron's head twice and fortunately misses the forward, only to tackle him to the ice. When Bergeron confronts the punching, Subban acts as if he doesn't know what he is talking about, and when he admits making the sucker punch attempt, he claims "I thought you were Marchy" (Brad Marchand) Milan Lucic Here Subban makes a similar play in which he sucker punches Boston's Milan Lucic in the back of the head during play. Sean Couturier Here Subban is involved in a scuffle, but when everything has died down and players of both teams are calm, Subban swings through the officials grasps and punches and unsuspecting, unprotected Couturier. Kris Kreider There is another video that I cannot seem to find of last years ECF in which Subban winds up and punches Kreider in the chest as he turns around to face him, knocking him violently to the ice. Subban seems to use this tactic as a form of bodychecking, although completely incorrect and unsportsmanlike.

Slewfooting Slewfooting is arguable one of the most dangerous plays in hockey. These plays generally involve the victim and perpetrator falling to the ice, meaning that the player is not worried about where the puck ends up, as long as he can take down the other player. The victim of a slewfoot is completely helpless to their own landing, and often fall straight onto their backs after being airborne and almost always hit helmet to the ice. Subbans recent slewfoot on Logan Couture In this video , Subban has Four different slewfooting incidents. The Kunitz play against the boards seems to be the most frightening. I remember watching that game, and even re-watching it my jaw drops in fear of Kunitz's ankles being broken. It?s a miracle that he was not injured on the play. Brandon Dubinsky, Patrik Elias, Chris Kunitz, and James Neal are all very dangerously slewfooted by Subban. Subban was fined $2,500 for his slewfoot of Kunitz
Unsportsmanlike Play and refusal to take responsibility

Here PK Subban throws a puck at an unsuspecting official, hitting him in the face.
Johnny Boychuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlcn574l5No I was lucky enough to attend this game. The boos of the Boston crowd when Subban touched the puck may have been louder than the goal horn. Boychuk is my favorite player as well, so this incident made me especially furious. Subban loses a puck battle, and while Boychuk is on his knee, Subban throws an obvious, deliberate punch to the back of the Defenseman's head. Boychuk immediately responds and engages Subban, he throws up his arms in shock that anyone could feel that way about his polite tap on the Bruins helmet. The usually calm Boychuk grabs Subban, who falls and turtles immedialty upon realizing he cannot escape. I miss you Johnny. Go Isles.
Andrew Ference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heF3OY2Pnoo Another Bruins incident, Subban leaves his feet and drives his forearm and elbow into David Krejci's head. Andrew Ference immedialty attacks PK, who drops to the ground and covers his head, accepting no responsibility for the dirty hit. Although the forearm/elbow drive may be arguable, the leverage given by leaving his feet is not.

Given that a good amount of these incidents are versus the Boston Bruins, who I happen to be a fan of, I am a fan of hockey itself before I am a fan of Boston. The rivalry of Boston and Montreal may be the greatest rivalry in all of sports, and I like to think that the two organizations and fans respect one another, but on the ice the hatred is clear.
There must be a hundred chippy players in the NHL. Whether it's Marchand, Lucic, Shaw, Cooke, Subban, Neal, Ribeiro, or Ott, it is hard to find this much video evidence of any one of those players committing such obvious unsportsmanlike and disrespectful acts. Aside from Cooke that is.. PK Subban is a tremendous player. He can score, he can stick handle, he can hit, and he can block shots. He won a Norris trophy. His athletic ability is undeniable. However his on ice antics are a disrespect not only to the others involved but his teammates, his franchise, his fans, and most importantly; the game of hockey itself.
This post is not intended to infuriate people, or to begin arguments, but rather to bring to light all of these outrageous acts and hope that more people see PK the way that I do.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

A Bruins fan wrote that? lol