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Tank Nation: Matthews Edition

LuncheonMeat said:
Hopefully the Leafs run with Sparks for the rest of the year. He's pretty low on confidence right now, and self-loathing is like jet fuel for the Tank.

Well Bernier's starting tonight. I'd guess they each get 2 more games.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bernier's been very good.  We could easily take 2 of the 4 if he keeps up.

Easily might be another stretch from you ;), especially with the line-up in front of him now.

He won 4 of 8 in March. So I'm saying he keeps that track record up and goes 1-1 while Sparks goes 0-2.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bernier's been very good.  We could easily take 2 of the 4 if he keeps up.

Easily might be another stretch from you ;), especially with the line-up in front of him now.

He won 4 of 8 in March. So I'm saying he keeps that track record up and goes 1-1 while Sparks goes 0-2.

I'm guessing Sparks gets the Columbus game... just a hunch.  ;)
 
LuncheonMeat said:
I'm guessing Sparks gets the Columbus game... just a hunch.  ;)

Go Bernier-Sparks-Bernier-Sparks. Gives Bernier the Philly game, which could end up being a must-win game for them. So even if Bernier does perform well the Flyers will likely take it.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bernier's been very good.  We could easily take 2 of the 4 if he keeps up.

Easily might be another stretch from you ;), especially with the line-up in front of him now.

He won 4 of 8 in March. So I'm saying he keeps that track record up and goes 1-1 while Sparks goes 0-2.

Not backing down here, my friend.  If he pitches two shutouts, we win those games easily.

Well, unless they recall somebody like Clune to fill in for Kadri.  errrrrrrr
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Not backing down here, my friend.  If he pitches two shutouts, we win those games easily.

With this lineup, he coudl do that, and have the Leafs lose both games in the shootout.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Not backing down here, my friend.  If he pitches two shutouts, we win those games easily.

With this lineup, he coudl do that, and have the Leafs lose both games in the shootout.

You still get credit for a shutout losing in a shootout?  I think we need at shoutout for a new term then. A shootshut.  Or an outout. 
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
You still get credit for a shutout losing in a shootout?  I think we need at shoutout for a new term then. A shootshut.  Or an outout.

Yup. Only goals scored during actual hockey can break a shutout.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
LuncheonMeat said:
I'm guessing Sparks gets the Columbus game... just a hunch.  ;)

Go Bernier-Sparks-Bernier-Sparks. Gives Bernier the Philly game, which could end up being a must-win game for them. So even if Bernier does perform well the Flyers will likely take it.

I say we go with Hologram-Turk Broda, Hologram-Bruce Gamble, 2 Ply Tissue paper and wet cardboard.

I'd put Johnny Bower in but he'd probably win with a shutout.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
You still get credit for a shutout losing in a shootout?  I think we need at shoutout for a new term then. A shootshut.  Or an outout.

Yup. Only goals scored during actual hockey can break a shutout.

When you explain it that way, it makes perfect sense.
 
Leafs officially clinch the tie-break advantage over the Oilers (from the perspective of having the best odds in the lottery). Also, they've all but officially clinched a bottom 5 finish, as Vancouver has a head-to-head matchup with Calgary, and a regulation or OT win by either team puts them out of the Leafs' range.

On top of that, a loss of any kind to Columbus in their next game, the Leafs officially cannot be passed by the Jackets. This would also clinch a bottom 3 finish, regardless of the result of the Canucks/Flames game - but would also mean a single point gained by Vancouver would clinch the Leafs a bottom 2 finish.

EDIT: All this is assuming Vancouver loses in regulation to LA tonight. If they gain a point, then a Leafs loss to the Blue Jackets would clinch a bottom 2 finish. If Vancouver wins tonight, a bottom 5 finish becomes official, and a bottom 3 finish becomes all-but-official.
 
bustaheims said:
Leafs officially clinch the tie-break advantage over the Oilers (from the perspective of having the best odds in the lottery). Also, they've all but officially clinched a bottom 5 finish, as Vancouver has a head-to-head matchup with Calgary, and a regulation or OT win by either team puts them out of the Leafs' range.

On top of that, a loss of any kind to Columbus in their next game, the Leafs officially cannot be passed by the Jackets. This would also clinch a bottom 3 finish, regardless of the result of the Canucks/Flames game - but would also mean a single point gained by Vancouver would clinch the Leafs a bottom 2 finish.

Funny how it wasn't too long ago that it seemed like the Leafs could possibly be blowing the tank. Although sending down 4 players and replacing them with worse versions of them definitely helped. As will/did the Kadri thing.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Funny how it wasn't too long ago that it seemed like the Leafs could possibly be blowing the tank. Although sending down 4 players and replacing them with worse versions of them definitely helped. As will/did the Kadri thing.

Yeah. If the Leafs lose their next two games in regulation, and the Oilers win on Wednesday against Vancouver, the Leafs will officially clinch 30th.
 
bustaheims said:
Yeah. If the Leafs lose their next two games in regulation, and the Oilers win on Wednesday against Vancouver, the Leafs will officially clinch 30th.

I actually really like the Leafs chances here. Edmonton likely splits their final 2 games against Vancouver, and I can't see the Leafs winning 2 of 3 with this roster. Especially since we're down to Sparks probably starting 2 of the next 3.
 
But what does it matter, really?  There's hardly any difference between 20% and 13.5%.  For that matter, no matter where we finish, our odds of getting the #1 pick are way less than 50%!  >:(

Once you fully grasp the forbidding math, as I have, it pretty much throws a big wet blanket over the whole proceedings.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
But what does it matter, really?  There's hardly any difference between 20% and 13.5%.  For that matter, no matter where we finish, our odds of getting the #1 pick are way less than 50%!  >:(

Once you fully grasp the forbidding math, as I have, it pretty much throws a big wet blanket over the whole proceedings.

because even if we don't pick first we'd still like to pick as early as possible?
 
crazyperfectdevil said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
But what does it matter, really?  There's hardly any difference between 20% and 13.5%.  For that matter, no matter where we finish, our odds of getting the #1 pick are way less than 50%!  >:(

Once you fully grasp the forbidding math, as I have, it pretty much throws a big wet blanket over the whole proceedings.

because even if we don't pick first we'd still like to pick as early as possible?

I don't know why people don't "get" this.  Yeah it's only 20% but it's better than 13.5%.
 

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