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The Leafs look like they could very well finish up with about the 5th pick in the draft. That will give them a shot at the lottery, but if not, would be sweet to snag a guy like Dylan Strome. If that were to happen, and hoping the William Nylander and Connor Brown continue to progress. That would be a significant influx of forward talent in a couple of years. Given that already have quite a few scoring threats up front - that aren't scoring - there seems to be sufficient pieces (Phanuef being the first and maybe a forward or two) to move around for some more young defensive prospects.
I'd personally think they should try to keep Franson (at the right price) if they can move Phaneuf. If they can't, Franson is pretty much gone I suspect. Cap is too tight, may as well get something for him. But personally I'd sooner see Phaneuf moved and let Rielly and Gardiner eat up those left side minutes. Percy likely becomes the number 3 left side guy. If Franson gets moved, leaves a pretty big hole on the right side, and I don't think moving Phaneuf back there is the answer.
I'd personally think they should try to keep Franson (at the right price) if they can move Phaneuf. If they can't, Franson is pretty much gone I suspect. Cap is too tight, may as well get something for him. But personally I'd sooner see Phaneuf moved and let Rielly and Gardiner eat up those left side minutes. Percy likely becomes the number 3 left side guy. If Franson gets moved, leaves a pretty big hole on the right side, and I don't think moving Phaneuf back there is the answer.
Highlander
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Slapshot, I concur completely?good post
The dysfunction is rampant:
Ray Ferero : "The Leafs have a president that wasn't hired by the owners, A GM. that wasn't hired by the president, a coach the wasn't hired by the GM and assistants who weren't hired by the coach. "Who puts a team together like that?"
Hard to wrap you head around it? Everything below Shanahan should be replaced excluding a handful of players. Eat salary if you have too, were in it for the long haul, the rebuild will be a long one to do it right.
Ray Ferero : "The Leafs have a president that wasn't hired by the owners, A GM. that wasn't hired by the president, a coach the wasn't hired by the GM and assistants who weren't hired by the coach. "Who puts a team together like that?"
Hard to wrap you head around it? Everything below Shanahan should be replaced excluding a handful of players. Eat salary if you have too, were in it for the long haul, the rebuild will be a long one to do it right.
bustaheims
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cabber24 said:
Other than Nonis, pretty much everyone in management or coaching has been replaced since Shanahan came aboard.
Chev-boyar-sky
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bustaheims said:
And FWIW, Horachek was "appointed" head coach (I'd say hired but what do I know) by the GM so it's not exactly correct.
The organization has been unbelievably bad for 10 years though. That's gotta fall on someone just not sure who.
bustaheims
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Chev-boyar-sky said:
Partly on ownership for hiring the wrong people to steer the ship and partly on the people who were steering the ship in the wrong direction.
GhostofPotvin29
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The owners didn't hire Shanahan?
bustaheims
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Potvin29 said:
I guess Ferraro's pointing out that Lieweke, the guy that hired Shanahan, is already on the way out the door. It's admittedly a bit of a stretch to say that ownership didn't hire him, but, the incoming president of MLSE didn't hire him.
bustaheims
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pmrules said:
To a point, yes. When he had full autonomy, he was absolutely a major issue. He no longer has that, so, in a way, he's been replaced in that he's unofficially been demoted.
Highlander
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That one really doesnt wash as Tim Leiweke got approval for Shanaplan to take over. So it was stamped by management in one way or another. and Shanaplan has replaced the two assistant coaches, fired Loiselle/Poulen and brought in Dubois and Hunter. Now his coach is in place, not Randy.
Seems to me it is getting less dysfunctional all of a sudden. And perhaps Nonis will be with old pal Burke in the not to distant future.
Oh heard that Calgary are the 3rd worst possession team in the league right now. How strange.
Seems to me it is getting less dysfunctional all of a sudden. And perhaps Nonis will be with old pal Burke in the not to distant future.
Oh heard that Calgary are the 3rd worst possession team in the league right now. How strange.
bustaheims
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
When Shanahan was hired, Nonis acknowledged that he has to get final approve from "his boss" and such. Having his assistants and such ripped out from under him is another sign that he no longer has the autonomy he once had. Moves of any significance have to be run up the chain of command before they can be executed.
GhostofPotvin29
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bustaheims said:
?Listen, I have a boss and it?s Brendan,? Nonis said. ?At the end of the day, the boss has the final say in anything.
Potvin29 said:
I don't think we will ever truly know how much autonomy Nonis or any future Leafs GM under Shanahan will have. I mean, technically that quote from Nonis was true even before Shanny was brought on board. It's just then Nonis' boss was Leiweke or the MLSE board.
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