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[Redleaf]

I can't overstate how badly they need to lose the next game. They could 2 pts out of 4th or 6 if they win..

Actually I think you are overstating it. Realistically the Leafs are going to pick between 4-8 and the rebuild really isn't going to hinge on where they pick from that range. It's a good draft and there will be good players available regardless of where they pick. A proper rebuild is going to be a long haul regardless of who their draft pick is this year.

That is a pessimistic attitude towards losing ;-)

Yeah. Pessimism toward pessimism.

 

[rdowdall]

I can't overstate how badly they need to lose the next game. They could 2 pts out of 4th or 6 if they win..

Actually I think you are overstating it. Realistically the Leafs are going to pick between 4-8 and the rebuild really isn't going to hinge on where they pick from that range. It's a good draft and there will be good players available regardless of where they pick. A proper rebuild is going to be a long haul regardless of who their draft pick is this year.

What do you mean by long haul?  5 years?  3 years?  I only ask because I think the Leafs are in a better position today than they were at the end of JFJ's term.  There are some nice pieces in the system whereas when JFJ was let go there wasn't much.  If they can get an elite talent this year and an elite talent next year, they may be knocking on the door of respectability in year 3. 

 

[Bender]

@reporterchris 

Kyle Dubas, speaking at Conn Smythe dinner, on #leafs: "We have to do things the right way. That may mean starting from the beginning."

Close as we've come to someone in management actually quoted on that.

I want to give Kyle a hug.

 

[Kin]

What do you mean by long haul?  5 years?  3 years?  I only ask because I think the Leafs are in a better position today than they were at the end of JFJ's term.  There are some nice pieces in the system whereas when JFJ was let go there wasn't much.  If they can get an elite talent this year and an elite talent next year, they may be knocking on the door of respectability in year 3.

The odds are very long that the Leafs draft a player who will be able to step in and be an "elite" player in their first few seasons this year. We shouldn't be gameplanning like that's a certainty. It's not impossible but realistically we should give the team at least three years to get their ducks in a row before we start having expectations for them.

 

[rdowdall]

What do you mean by long haul?  5 years?  3 years?  I only ask because I think the Leafs are in a better position today than they were at the end of JFJ's term.  There are some nice pieces in the system whereas when JFJ was let go there wasn't much.  If they can get an elite talent this year and an elite talent next year, they may be knocking on the door of respectability in year 3.

The odds are very long that the Leafs draft a player who will be able to step in and be an "elite" player in their first few seasons this year. We shouldn't be gameplanning like that's a certainty. It's not impossible but realistically we should give the team at least three years to get their ducks in a row before we start having expectations for them.

This is true. Outside of winning the lottery, even if they end up with a Dylan Strome, his career path is likely similar to Ryan Johansen's, which means he's probably 5 years away on draft day from making an impact.  Can't fast track a rebuild.  We fans should know that better than anyone.

 

[Bill_Berg]

We're only 6 points back of the Oilers after they beat Boston.

7, to be exact.

And it'll probably have to be 8 as the Leafs will likely hold the tie-breaker over Edmonton.

What terrible math on my part.

Even thinking of it as 8 is encouraging. At this point any team less than 10 points ahead of us is within reach. Or at least, it feels realistic that we could catch them.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Columbus wins again.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Mark Masters @markhmasters  ?  10 minutes ago
Hurricanes can pull within two points of Leafs with regulation win tonight; On Dec. 18 they were 22 points behind

Good job guys, keep up the good work.

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

We're only 6 points back of the Oilers after they beat Boston.

7, to be exact.

And it'll probably have to be 8 as the Leafs will likely hold the tie-breaker over Edmonton.

What terrible math on my part.

Even thinking of it as 8 is encouraging. At this point any team less than 10 points ahead of us is within reach. Or at least, it feels realistic that we could catch them.

The only way we end up higher than 4th overall is if we win the lottery IMO.

Of course, I hope I'm wrong!

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Mark Masters @markhmasters  ?  10 minutes ago
Hurricanes can pull within two points of Leafs with regulation win tonight; On Dec. 18 they were 22 points behind

Good job guys, keep up the good work.

Wow.... just wow.  Given that Carolina is anything but a good team, that really puts into perspective just how bad this Leaf team is.

 

[Joe S.]

Mark Masters @markhmasters  ?  10 minutes ago
Hurricanes can pull within two points of Leafs with regulation win tonight; On Dec. 18 they were 22 points behind

Good job guys, keep up the good work.

That's just nuts.

 

[Bill_Berg]

We're only 6 points back of the Oilers after they beat Boston.

7, to be exact.

And it'll probably have to be 8 as the Leafs will likely hold the tie-breaker over Edmonton.

What terrible math on my part.

Even thinking of it as 8 is encouraging. At this point any team less than 10 points ahead of us is within reach. Or at least, it feels realistic that we could catch them.

The only way we end up higher than 4th overall is if we win the lottery IMO.

Of course, I hope I'm wrong!

Got to have something to cheer for!

 

[herman]

Mark Masters @markhmasters  ?  10 minutes ago
Hurricanes can pull within two points of Leafs with regulation win tonight; On Dec. 18 they were 22 points behind

Good job guys, keep up the good work.

Wow.... just wow.  Given that Carolina is anything but a good team, that really puts into perspective just how bad this Leaf team is.

The Leafs were getting unsustainably good results early on, and now getting unsustainably bad results more recently. We'll win a couple more, but with tank-effects and trade deadline movement, our course is determined. I think we can catch Arizona/Carolina.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

We're only 6 points back of the Oilers after they beat Boston.

7, to be exact.

And it'll probably have to be 8 as the Leafs will likely hold the tie-breaker over Edmonton.

What terrible math on my part.

Even thinking of it as 8 is encouraging. At this point any team less than 10 points ahead of us is within reach. Or at least, it feels realistic that we could catch them.

The only way we end up higher than 4th overall is if we win the lottery IMO.

Of course, I hope I'm wrong!

I think the only player we can decisively say the Leafs can't imaginably draft this year is Eichel.  They get McDavid if they win the lottery and anybody besides Eichel could fall to them depending on where they pick and who gets chosen when.

 

[L K]

We're only 6 points back of the Oilers after they beat Boston.

7, to be exact.

And it'll probably have to be 8 as the Leafs will likely hold the tie-breaker over Edmonton.

What terrible math on my part.

Even thinking of it as 8 is encouraging. At this point any team less than 10 points ahead of us is within reach. Or at least, it feels realistic that we could catch them.

The only way we end up higher than 4th overall is if we win the lottery IMO.

Of course, I hope I'm wrong!

I think the only player we can decisively say the Leafs can't imaginably draft this year is Eichel.  They get McDavid if they win the lottery and anybody besides Eichel could fall to them depending on where they pick and who gets chosen when.

Just to spite you, the Leafs will win the lottery, draft 1st overall and take Lawson Crouse.

 

[Tigger]

 

[Jolly good show chaps]

The tank stalls...

 

[Redleaf]

I guess it wasnt the worst time to win a game, considering the 2 pts didn't change their place in the standings at all.

This has to be my imagination at work, otherwise it would be cheating, and we all know nobody in professional sports does such a thing, but it almost feels like Leaf brass have a big 'EFFORT' dial hidden away somewhere in one their offices. They can dial it up or down before each game, depending on the outcome they are looking for that night. Crazy notion eh? 8)

 

[freer]

Tank Nation! So about the victory but we did not expect them to lose them all.

 

[sickbeast]

I just hope they don't go on a tear like they always do at this time of year.