GhostofPotvin29
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Iwas11in67 said:Would you trade Kessel for McDavid?
I doubt anyone wouldn't.
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Iwas11in67 said:Would you trade Kessel for McDavid?
Iwas11in67 said:Would you trade Kessel for McDavid?
The real question is what GM would trade McDavid for Kessel?Iwas11in67 said:Would you trade Kessel for McDavid?
CarltonTheBear said:Lynx said:Sakic in Colorado?
He quietly took over the GM title as well in the summer.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:I hope Shanahan is already putting a plan in place to start the overhaul. Probably little or nothing will happen until the deadline, but as Cox pointed out in his column today, Shanahan had the good sense to fire Carlyle while the team was still nominally in the hunt for a playoff spot. He knew a pipe dream when he saw it.
Kypreos on Phil Kessel: 'It hasn't worked out'
Sportsnet.ca-Jan 14, 2015
Teacher rips Toronto's Kessel, Phaneuf in quiz
Sportsnet.ca-Jan 15, 2015
Is Maple Leafs' Phil Kessel a coach-killer?
Toronto Sun-Jan 6, 2015
Kelly: Trading Phil Kessel is the key to overdue rebuild of Maple Leafs
The Globe and Mail - Jan 6, 2015
- which starts out: Winger David Clarkson, whose production is ahead of last season (he'd finish with 6 more points than last season at his current pace if he played same # of games as last season)David Clarkson changing roles for Maple Leafs
Toronto Sun-Jan 3, 2015
Patrick said:It really sucks and makes me have zero respect for almost every beat reporter in Toronto, the fact that they are not screaming this at every opportunity means they are all bought and paid for.
I suppose we should learn to expect the same sycophantic bs from the sports media that the mainstream media has become where you parrot whatever your corporate masters want you to.
herman said:Kessel's name is clickbait because he is enigmatic and polarizing (personality vs performance). Like Kadri's used to be when he was yo-yoed. Phanuef's too, based on his captaincy.
Clarkson doesn't do anything so he's not interesting. The only point of contention with Clarkson really is the unmoveable contract Nonis awarded him, as his performance is exactly what we the fans expected of him.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Of course, whether or not people criticize Clarkson has nothing at all to do with the validity of criticism of Kessel, Phaneuf, or any other player.
Potvin29 said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Of course, whether or not people criticize Clarkson has nothing at all to do with the validity of criticism of Kessel, Phaneuf, or any other player.
Well that would entirely depend on what the criticism is and that would have to be looked at on a case by case basis.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Potvin29 said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Of course, whether or not people criticize Clarkson has nothing at all to do with the validity of criticism of Kessel, Phaneuf, or any other player.
Well that would entirely depend on what the criticism is and that would have to be looked at on a case by case basis.
Nope.
Potvin29 said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Potvin29 said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Of course, whether or not people criticize Clarkson has nothing at all to do with the validity of criticism of Kessel, Phaneuf, or any other player.
Well that would entirely depend on what the criticism is and that would have to be looked at on a case by case basis.
Nope.
If you are a media member (to pick an example) and you're criticizing Kessel as the Leafs unable to win because of Kessel and you don't include Clarkson in there, then yes one has to do with the other. It goes to your credibility and ability to accurately assess what's right or wrong with the team.