The Unofficial Fire Ron Wilson/Ron Wilson is the Greatest Thread

[cw]

Marlies have second best GAA in the AHL. Sure, their goalies play great (Owuya, Scrivens as well as Rynaas) but obviously it is not just the goalies but the whole defensive system. If it works with Marlies why the hell not with the Leafs. It is there, just apply the system with the Leafs.

But don't you know? The Leafs have to run and gun to entertain the fans that come to the games. If not, they won't buy tickets. Burke has said many times that "we're in the entertainment business". Maybe so but they're certainly not in the winning business.

For those with their sarcasm meter broken, I'm not advocating TB 1-3-1
or New Jersey under Lemaire but I am advocating some kind
of defensive system.

Right now our defensive system consists of following the refs to centre ice
after another goal.

You`re honestly advocating that the team plays a style for the purposes of entertaining and not winning.... wow.

Wasn't that sarcasm?

It was.

But on a non sarcastic note: this team was built to run and gun. When the goalies let in some softies, Wilson's reaction seemed to be to get them to play a more defensive style. So they tried, got burned for a couple of goals and then had to move back to run & gun to try to get back into it when their opponent, up by a couple, could sit back and wait for the inevitable, higher risk turnovers.

In other words, I question Wilson's coaching under those circumstances. This team plays best when it does what it's designed to do best: run & gun. Wilson complained about the hole they got themselves into but to some extent, some of that hole was brought about by them trying to play a defensive game they're simply not designed to be as good at. To some extent, I think Wilson bears some responsibility for that though I concede under the circumstances of goalies giving up soft goals, it might have been something that was tempting to try.

 

[Deebo]

The players in this city get off so easy.

 

[Fanatic]

Wilson coaches game # 1400 tonight.

That's great, but please, no opening ceremony.

 

[Optimus Reimer]

The players in this city get off so easy.

As long as they don't do it in public it's none of my business.

 

[Erndog]

Wilson coaches game # 1400 tonight.

That's great, but please, no opening ceremony.

No, they'll save it for HNIC on Saturday night.

 

[Kin]

No, they'll save it for HNIC on Saturday night.

"Ladies and Gentlemen....Not many coaches are successful enough to coach 1400 games in their career and Ron Wilson is no exception..."

 

[Sweenbot]

So sick of Wilson, I just saw him comparing athletes to everyday people like you and I. Saying we don't have to worry about being traded and having to move. No Ron we don't, most of us have to worry about just keeping or jobs, his arrogance is really starting to get to me.

 

[pnjunction]

As I was saying in the GDT the trade deadline excuse is probably the most pathetic one yet.

There are 29 teams that played better than the Leafs leading up to the deadline Ron.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So sick of Wilson, I just saw him comparing athletes to everyday people like you and I. Saying we don't have to worry about being traded and having to move. No Ron we don't, most of us have to worry about just keeping or jobs, his arrogance is really starting to get to me.

Seriously. If a player is worried about having to move his wife and children across the continent his GM should just take out their caring chip. I don't know why those were installed in them in the first place.

 

[pnjunction]

So sick of Wilson, I just saw him comparing athletes to everyday people like you and I. Saying we don't have to worry about being traded and having to move. No Ron we don't, most of us have to worry about just keeping or jobs, his arrogance is really starting to get to me.

Seriously. If a player is worried about having to move his wife and children across the continent his GM should just take out their caring chip. I don't know why those were installed in them in the first place.

I think I'm coming around...

Being the worst team in the league leading up to the deadline is actually a good thing.  It shows how much the Leafs care about their families.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So sick of Wilson, I just saw him comparing athletes to everyday people like you and I. Saying we don't have to worry about being traded and having to move. No Ron we don't, most of us have to worry about just keeping or jobs, his arrogance is really starting to get to me.

Seriously. If a player is worried about having to move his wife and children across the continent his GM should just take out their caring chip. I don't know why those were installed in them in the first place.

I think I'm coming around...

Being the worst team in the league leading up to the deadline is actually a good thing.  It shows how much the Leafs care about their families.

That line of thinking still makes more sense than thinking hockey players aren't humans.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

So sick of Wilson, I just saw him comparing athletes to everyday people like you and I. Saying we don't have to worry about being traded and having to move. No Ron we don't, most of us have to worry about just keeping or jobs, his arrogance is really starting to get to me.

Seriously. If a player is worried about having to move his wife and children across the continent his GM should just take out their caring chip. I don't know why those were installed in them in the first place.

;D

 

[Tigger]

As I was saying in the GDT the trade deadline excuse is probably the most pathetic one yet.

There are 29 teams that played better than the Leafs leading up to the deadline Ron.

Just sign up the hockeybot3000, no more excuses!!

 

[pnjunction]

As I was saying in the GDT the trade deadline excuse is probably the most pathetic one yet.

There are 29 teams that played better than the Leafs leading up to the deadline Ron.

Just sign up the hockeybot3000, no more excuses!!

Well apparently 29 other teams are already using them.  Either that or they don't need such a lame excuse for their terrible play.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

For the record, I'm not saying that the trade deadline should be used as an excuse for the Leafs struggles. But to suggest that uprooting your entire life (and potentially that of your family), without having any say in the decision, shouldn't be a problem because they make millions is ridiculous.

 

[Kin]

For the record, I'm not saying that the trade deadline should be used as an excuse for the Leafs struggles. But to suggest that uprooting your entire life (and potentially that of your family), without having any say in the decision, shouldn't be a problem because they make millions is ridiculous.

That's a bit of an exaggeration of the impact in getting dealt. These are guys who live out of suitcases a good chunk of the year anyway. If a single guy gets dealt, he's not "uprooting his entire life" and a married guy getting dealt doesn't have to sell his house and be out in 15 minutes.

And I wouldn't say that it's not a problem because they make a lot of money but I'd say that players need to suck that up because it's the job.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

For the record, I'm not saying that the trade deadline should be used as an excuse for the Leafs struggles. But to suggest that uprooting your entire life (and potentially that of your family), without having any say in the decision, shouldn't be a problem because they make millions is ridiculous.

Not only that, this team is by all accounts very close, I'm sure they didn't want their team broken up either. Ask Miller today how he feels about Buffalo trading Gaustad out of town.

Part of the plan was to make this team such that they are close in age and tight.

 

[Tigger]

As I was saying in the GDT the trade deadline excuse is probably the most pathetic one yet.

There are 29 teams that played better than the Leafs leading up to the deadline Ron.

Just sign up the hockeybot3000, no more excuses!!

Well apparently 29 other teams are already using them.  Either that or they don't need such a lame excuse for their terrible play.

When you don't get goaltending, your powerplay goes 2 for 55 and your secondary scoring practically disappears, I think one can have a look at confidence as part of the problem, especially for such a young team in a crazy market.

People like yourself might want to dismiss that as irrelevant but I don't agree, it's not the entire reason but I think it's fair to say it's part of it.

 

[Tigger]

I'd say that players need to suck that up because it's the job.

That's easy to say and also means it's something that needs to be dealt with, they're still human.

 

[Kin]

That's easy to say and also means it's something that needs to be dealt with, they're still human.

Yup. Jobs have stress. I get that. You deal with it.