Guilt Trip
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Leafs will be fine. Their core will remain together and that's all that matters. Don't get too attached to players not named Matthews, Marner, JT, Freddie, Rielly.louisstamos said:
Toronto Maple Leafs vs Boston Bruins - Round 1
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My post mortem on the season.
1. This series result should make a few things really clear. On D, Gardiner won't be back. Rosen will replace him, and may wind up being an upgrade. If Hainsey comes back on cheap contract, should be third-pairing to help Dermott the way he's helped really. Leafs need a couple of top grade right-side d-men, one for Rielly and one to replace Zaitsev. Between him and Gardiner, never knew who would cough up the puck more. Gardiner just has more of a flare for the spectacular in that regard, but Zaitsev does his fair share of throwing it away or losing it. Good news is they have Sandin, Liljegren coming along, and some potentially decent other young options in Mac Hollowell and Joseph Duszak, along with Rosen, so things should get straightened out on the back end eventually.
2. Up front, Marleau is barely a shell of the player that arrived two years ago. That final year of that contract looks ugly unless something can be done. Goat should be gone and Leafs look for the 4th line center that can play physical, win faceoffs and play defence. If Bracco shows well in camp, he could make the team next spring, adding yet another offensive right winger. Some will have to be moved, and I hope it's Nylander for a right side d-man. Wish Dubas had already pulled that trigger but perhaps the offers weren't good enough.
3. In goal, Leafs need a strong d in front of Freddie, one that doesn't cough up the puck so much and clear front of net better. Plus a genuine back up. I think he'll eventually push through.
Stronger d, a bit more grit, another year of experience and they'll be fine. Matthews, Marner and Rielly keep getting better. I think Johnsson, Kapanan, Dermott and Moore (who I really like) will all get better too. Tavares, Hyman and Muzzin will continue to be solid. I think Hyman was playing these playoff hurt. I still like Brown, and would take Ennis on a cheap contract, same with Hainsey, but the rest I could do without including Nylander, (not referring to goalies here).
1. This series result should make a few things really clear. On D, Gardiner won't be back. Rosen will replace him, and may wind up being an upgrade. If Hainsey comes back on cheap contract, should be third-pairing to help Dermott the way he's helped really. Leafs need a couple of top grade right-side d-men, one for Rielly and one to replace Zaitsev. Between him and Gardiner, never knew who would cough up the puck more. Gardiner just has more of a flare for the spectacular in that regard, but Zaitsev does his fair share of throwing it away or losing it. Good news is they have Sandin, Liljegren coming along, and some potentially decent other young options in Mac Hollowell and Joseph Duszak, along with Rosen, so things should get straightened out on the back end eventually.
2. Up front, Marleau is barely a shell of the player that arrived two years ago. That final year of that contract looks ugly unless something can be done. Goat should be gone and Leafs look for the 4th line center that can play physical, win faceoffs and play defence. If Bracco shows well in camp, he could make the team next spring, adding yet another offensive right winger. Some will have to be moved, and I hope it's Nylander for a right side d-man. Wish Dubas had already pulled that trigger but perhaps the offers weren't good enough.
3. In goal, Leafs need a strong d in front of Freddie, one that doesn't cough up the puck so much and clear front of net better. Plus a genuine back up. I think he'll eventually push through.
Stronger d, a bit more grit, another year of experience and they'll be fine. Matthews, Marner and Rielly keep getting better. I think Johnsson, Kapanan, Dermott and Moore (who I really like) will all get better too. Tavares, Hyman and Muzzin will continue to be solid. I think Hyman was playing these playoff hurt. I still like Brown, and would take Ennis on a cheap contract, same with Hainsey, but the rest I could do without including Nylander, (not referring to goalies here).
hockeyfan1
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Does Babcock stay, does Babcock go:
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hockeyfan1
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The knives are out...
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https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/maple-leafs-fans-upset-babcock-latest-game-7-loss-bruins/
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Guilt Trip
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Here's a twitter post from Mike Commodore. Needless to say he isn't a fan.
From Mike Commodore.
Well Folks...what a shocker...that piece of shit Babs is blaming anyone but himself...The GM, the goalie, depth. Truth is That Leafs team is good. Real good. Loaded with talent. Generational coach? Leader? Bullshit.
He?s a fraud.
From Mike Commodore.
Well Folks...what a shocker...that piece of shit Babs is blaming anyone but himself...The GM, the goalie, depth. Truth is That Leafs team is good. Real good. Loaded with talent. Generational coach? Leader? Bullshit.
He?s a fraud.
hockeyfan1
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Simmons take: yes, this is the way it?s seen...a mix of positives & negatives and plenty of what ifs:
https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/simmons-leafs-eliminate-themselves-in-game-7
https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/simmons-leafs-eliminate-themselves-in-game-7
hockeyfan1
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Was Freddy overworked:
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Guilt Trip said:
There's lot of valid criticisms of Babcock but I wouldn't be looking to Mike Commodore for reasonable ones. There's a one-side blood feud going on there that can only be described as deranged.
Guilt Trip
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Me neither. I found it funny. Guy has a hate on for Babs.CarltonTheBear said:
Bullfrog
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Bender said:
I thought the same. It's completely fair to criticize someone's performance, but at least may it genuine. Him being into the second round only once during that time is pretty much what I'd expect in his situation.
I think he made mistakes; I'm frustrated by some of his decisions. But, I also think he's getting too much of the blame. The players need to be accountable too.
BermudaBudsFan
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Babcock is getting paid $6.5 million per. We should never be out coached. Ever. Would we have been better with Trotz? Gallant? Keefe? Name your coach. If the answer is yes, something has to give.Zee said: