Toronto Maple Leafs vs Boston Bruins - Round 1

[Guilt Trip]

http://hockeynow.ca/performance/coach-enio-individual-physical-and-mental-skills-for-killing-penalties

And again. Please tell me what skills Hyman and Brown have that JT and the rest don't. I stand by what I said but I'll clarify it. You can teach literally anyone at the NHL level  how to PK.
One last thing from that link you sent..Here's a quote and line from Bob Johnson from your link...
?You don't need great skill to be a good penalty killer?. You just need hard work.

 

[Bender]

Hahaha...But Polak sucks, remember?

It is kind of fun to consider that despite Polak, Komorov, Martin, and somewhat Bozak being the whipping boys for the team last year, they're playing active roles on teams that are in the 2nd round. And hey, throw Lou in there, too, the dinosaur that was holding the Leafs back.

Are you implying that if we just hung on to Bozak/Polak/Martin we'd be in a better position? Or that they actually had a fit in our roster? You are aware that players that don't fit our situation here aren't all so shitty that they can't play hockey anymore.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Hahaha...But Polak sucks, remember?

It is kind of fun to consider that despite Polak, Komorov, Martin, and somewhat Bozak being the whipping boys for the team last year, they're playing active roles on teams that are in the 2nd round. And hey, throw Lou in there, too, the dinosaur that was holding the Leafs back.

Are you implying that if we just hung on to Bozak/Polak/Martin we'd be in a better position? Or that they actually had a fit in our roster? You are aware that players that don't fit our situation here aren't all so shitty that they can't play hockey anymore.

Not at all. My point was relative to your last sentence. I've seen multiple people really, really, going over the top with criticism of players on the current roster for a lot of the season, and up to today - not just "fitting in our situation" - the complaints were far more relative to their abilities as NHL players, just like the players I mentioned above.

Perhaps the angry amateur talent evaluators need to eat a little humble pie, is all.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

http://hockeynow.ca/performance/coach-enio-individual-physical-and-mental-skills-for-killing-penalties

And again. Please tell me what skills Hyman and Brown have that JT and the rest don't. I stand by what I said but I'll clarify it. You can teach literally anyone at the NHL level  how to PK.
One last thing from that link you sent..Here's a quote and line from Bob Johnson from your link...
?You don't need great skill to be a good penalty killer?. You just need hard work.

No one is saying you need "great skill" if that great skill is considered a player that can dance with the puck....but to take away from a great penalty killer by saying "anyone can do it" is completely false. I am not saying that Tavares can't penalty kill. You're using one of the game's best all around players to prove your point. He's not the norm.

 

[Guilt Trip]

http://hockeynow.ca/performance/coach-enio-individual-physical-and-mental-skills-for-killing-penalties

And again. Please tell me what skills Hyman and Brown have that JT and the rest don't. I stand by what I said but I'll clarify it. You can teach literally anyone at the NHL level  how to PK.
One last thing from that link you sent..Here's a quote and line from Bob Johnson from your link...
?You don't need great skill to be a good penalty killer?. You just need hard work.

No one is saying you need "great skill" if that great skill is considered a player that can dance with the puck....but to take away from a great penalty killer by saying "anyone can do it" is completely false. I am not saying that Tavares can't penalty kill. You're using one of the game's best all around players to prove your point. He's not the norm.

Again you fail to read what I said. Bullfrog said it takes a special skillset. Soooo, I asked what the difference in skill does Hyman possess that JT and the REST don't have so I'm not using just JT as the prime example. So please tell me the special skills Hyman has that the rest who don't pk are missing. We have lots of players who work hard and are good skaters.

 

[Chris]

Does anyone have any stats that break down the PPG against the various Leaf penalty killers? Watching the games this year I had the distinct feeling that many were scored while Kapanen was on the ice, and often on his side. There was at least one during the playoffs. I'm wondering if my impressions are backed up by the actual numbers.

I know the guy is fast but if he's not generating breakaways, he seems to often get lost in the dzone while on the penalty kill.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I think you may be right Chris. I remember at least 1 in the playoffs also. I think the issue with Kappy was he was too aggressive getting out to the point man which would leave a big gap between him and the D man. I'm sure there are stats to see who wa good or bad on the pk.