Trade Deadline

[Guilt Trip]

Like they say...some of the best trades are the ones you don't make. Let's hope

 

[Frank E]

So, now that this is over, and to provide you all with my very valuable opinion, I think the Plekanec deal is stupid.

They didn't deal with the UFAs on the roster.  Fine.  They wanted to retain them for a run, then fine.  So they get themselves a fourth line centre, and spend a high draft pick to get him...and I'm fine with that too, as long as they address their biggest problem:  defense.

They did nothing to address their biggest hole, but they spent a high pick for an 8-minute guy for 3 months of service?

This just doesn't make good sense.

To me, you acquire a Plekanec after you've addressed your more pressing issue, and only if you've got some currency left over after dealing with your biggest problem.

But they bought the snowmobile before the furnace.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So, now that this is over, and to provide you all with my very valuable opinion, I think the Plekanec deal is stupid.

I liked the Plekanec trade by itself, but in a couple months it will probably seem silly that we've thrown away 2nd rounders two years in a row on 4C's when we really never stood a chance to win the Cup.

 

[ZBBM]

So, now that this is over, and to provide you all with my very valuable opinion, I think the Plekanec deal is stupid.

They didn't deal with the UFAs on the roster.  Fine.  They wanted to retain them for a run, then fine.  So they get themselves a fourth line centre, and spend a high draft pick to get him...and I'm fine with that too, as long as they address their biggest problem:  defense.

They did nothing to address their biggest hole, but they spent a high pick for an 8-minute guy for 3 months of service?

This just doesn't make good sense.

To me, you acquire a Plekanec after you've addressed your more pressing issue, and only if you've got some currency left over after dealing with your biggest problem.

But they bought the snowmobile before the furnace.

I love you.

 

[Zee]

So, now that this is over, and to provide you all with my very valuable opinion, I think the Plekanec deal is stupid.

They didn't deal with the UFAs on the roster.  Fine.  They wanted to retain them for a run, then fine.  So they get themselves a fourth line centre, and spend a high draft pick to get him...and I'm fine with that too, as long as they address their biggest problem:  defense.

They did nothing to address their biggest hole, but they spent a high pick for an 8-minute guy for 3 months of service?

This just doesn't make good sense.

To me, you acquire a Plekanec after you've addressed your more pressing issue, and only if you've got some currency left over after dealing with your biggest problem.

But they bought the snowmobile before the furnace.

I love you.

Daily affirmation like this is a good thing in the world. I love all you guys

 

[ZBBM]

So, now that this is over, and to provide you all with my very valuable opinion, I think the Plekanec deal is stupid.

I liked the Plekanec trade by itself, but in a couple months it will probably seem silly that we've thrown away 2nd rounders two years in a row on 4C's when we really never stood a chance to win the Cup.

Well, yeah.  In for a dime, in for a dollar as the saying goes.  Not in for a dime, and then let's throw the dime in the toilet 8 weeks later.

 

[Highlander]

they still have a 2nd round pick and we didn't get Glendenning from Detroit.  Maybe just maybe the chemistry will be right this year. Perhaps we will surprise.  Hope springs eternal in Loafland.
On a real good pro message, Kapi will be on the wing with Willie, Marner will stay with Kadri and  Keptain Komi will be anchored to his new Plank. This is good news

 

[Captain Canuck]

I'm not going to lie, I'm a bit disappointed they didn't get a d-man.

Like others have said why trade for Plekanec, keep all your UFAs and then just stand pat on the blueline? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Reminds me of the 2002 deadline, Leafs had a solid team, only a piece or two away IMO, and what do they do....trade for a washed up Tom Barrasso! Talk about disappointment!

At the same time I realize it's not quite the Leafs time yet, but getting really mixed signals from Leafs management with the moves that were and were not made the last 48 hours.

 

[Guilt Trip]

I'm not going to lie, I'm a bit disappointed they didn't get a d-man.

Like others have said why trade for Plekanec, keep all your UFAs and then just stand pat on the blueline? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Reminds me of the 2002 deadline, Leafs had a solid team, only a piece or two away IMO, and what do they do....trade for a washed up Tom Barrasso! Talk about disappointment!

At the same time I realize it's not quite the Leafs time yet, but getting really mixed signals from Leafs management with the moves that were and were not made the last 48 hours.

Why? They had a weakness at the 4c position, they addressed it. They tried to get McDonagh but couldn't match.  Trading away a 25 goal scorer from your team that could potentially do well in the playoffs sends the wrong message to the team, so to trade him for picks, prospects won't work. If they could have done JVR for a McDonagh in a round about way, that would fly.
Ask Brayden Schenn how he feels about trading Stastny away. Like Jeff O'Neill says..Winnipeg feels like management believes they can win it all by the trade, St Louis feels like management is giving up on the year.
I wanted JVR gone to but that's the way it goes. I think the Plekanec trade will be good for the Leafs. We essentially have 2 3rd lines now and 2 firsts. The team is better then it was last game.
Time will tell.

 

[Frank E]

So, now that this is over, and to provide you all with my very valuable opinion, I think the Plekanec deal is stupid.

They didn't deal with the UFAs on the roster.  Fine.  They wanted to retain them for a run, then fine.  So they get themselves a fourth line centre, and spend a high draft pick to get him...and I'm fine with that too, as long as they address their biggest problem:  defense.

They did nothing to address their biggest hole, but they spent a high pick for an 8-minute guy for 3 months of service?

This just doesn't make good sense.

To me, you acquire a Plekanec after you've addressed your more pressing issue, and only if you've got some currency left over after dealing with your biggest problem.

But they bought the snowmobile before the furnace.

I love you.

That was for you...I'm glad you caught it.

 

[Highlander]

I'm not going to lie, I'm a bit disappointed they didn't get a d-man.

Like others have said why trade for Plekanec, keep all your UFAs and then just stand pat on the blueline? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Reminds me of the 2002 deadline, Leafs had a solid team, only a piece or two away IMO, and what do they do....trade for a washed up Tom Barrasso! Talk about disappointment!

At the same time I realize it's not quite the Leafs time yet, but getting really mixed signals from Leafs management with the moves that were and were not made the last 48 hours.

Why? They had a weakness at the 4c position, they addressed it. They tried to get McDonagh but couldn't match.  Trading away a 25 goal scorer from your team that could potentially do well in the playoffs sends the wrong message to the team, so to trade him for picks, prospects won't work. If they could have done JVR for a McDonagh in a round about way, that would fly.
Ask Brayden Schenn how he feels about trading Stastny away. Like Jeff O'Neill says..Winnipeg feels like management believes they can win it all by the trade, St Louis feels like management is giving up on the year.
I wanted JVR gone to but that's the way it goes. I think the Plekanec trade will be good for the Leafs. We essentially have 2 3rd lines now and 2 firsts. The team is better then it was last game.
Time will tell.

We are on the same page G.T. and we all have to stop whining about things that didn't happen, and back what has become a very good Leaf squad. Lets see where they take us.  Make it an adventure.

And lets keep developing the Johnssons, Bracco's, Timashovs and Lilypads and keep drafting smart.

 

[Coco-puffs]

The thing that bugs me most about not moving JVR, besides the fact that he's a one tool guy whose value may be at its peak, is that he may well be a liability in the playoffs. I still recall how abysmal he was defensively against Boston in the first round years back. There's little reason to think that would change this time around, and his puck-tipping skills are not enough to compensate.

If there was one tool to have though...

With Komarov-Plekanec-x  as a secondary shutdown unit I wouldn't be surprised to see JVR-Bozak-x used more like a 4th line that'll get extra minutes when we're trailing by 2+ goals from here on out, or at least in the playoffs.

This basically. In one move (Plekanec), they've isolated the liability to a single, still highly dangerous line. It's first-line offense with 4th line defense, in 4th line minutes + top-3 PP.

I wouldn?t be surprised to see Plekanec line take more minutes at 5v5 in tied or leading games. JVR will continue to see lower 5v5 mins... and the biggest change I want to see is using JVR on BOTH PP units.  He?s unbelievable in front and nobody else can come close.  He?s not going to tire out with the low 5v5 mins he?s getting.

JVR
Bozak-Kadri-Marner
Rielly

JVR
Nylander-Marleau-Matthews
Gardiner

 

[Redleaf]

I?m wondering if a big loss tonight ignites even more fans about today?s non-events .

 

[Highlander]

Again its time to stop our whining, lets back this club, hell they have beaten some very good teams on a 14-3 run (or very close to this) with the lineup without this latest upgrade.  Perhaps the Mechanic can service us to a win or two in the playoff, then the last week would have been a great success.

 

[Frank E]

So, now that this is over, and to provide you all with my very valuable opinion, I think the Plekanec deal is stupid.

I liked the Plekanec trade by itself, but in a couple months it will probably seem silly that we've thrown away 2nd rounders two years in a row on 4C's when we really never stood a chance to win the Cup.

...which is why I think it's stupid.  And given our current crop of 2016 draft picks, I'm not too pumped about the pipeline. 

They're going to have to go out and buy 2 permanent'ish centres this summer, no?  Unless we still think Nylander is going to end up there?

 

[Coco-puffs]

So, now that this is over, and to provide you all with my very valuable opinion, I think the Plekanec deal is stupid.

I liked the Plekanec trade by itself, but in a couple months it will probably seem silly that we've thrown away 2nd rounders two years in a row on 4C's when we really never stood a chance to win the Cup.

...which is why I think it's stupid.  And given our current crop of 2016 draft picks, I'm not too pumped about the pipeline. 

They're going to have to go out and buy 2 permanent'ish centres this summer, no?  Unless we still think Nylander is going to end up there?

I think keeping Nylander there through this stretch (especially on the road) is testing the waters on having him be a full time center next year.  Considering we have Marner, Kapanen, and Brown on the right side as well I?d rather have Nylander play center anyways so none of those guys have to play on the 4th line next year.

 

[Zee]

Again its time to stop our whining, lets back this club, hell they have beaten some very good teams on a 14-3 run (or very close to this) with the lineup without this latest upgrade.  Perhaps the Mechanic can service us to a win or two in the playoff, then the last week would have been a great success.

I hope they can go on a 14-3 run in the playoffs.

 

[Highlander]

So, now that this is over, and to provide you all with my very valuable opinion, I think the Plekanec deal is stupid.

I liked the Plekanec trade by itself, but in a couple months it will probably seem silly that we've thrown away 2nd rounders two years in a row on 4C's when we really never stood a chance to win the Cup.

...which is why I think it's stupid.  And given our current crop of 2016 draft picks, I'm not too pumped about the pipeline. 

They're going to have to go out and buy 2 permanent'ish centres this summer, no?  Unless we still think Nylander is going to end up there?

If Willie can play Centre like last game then he will be slotted there next year, he has enough time to prove himself with Auston out, we have enough wingers in the pipeline to fill 2 or 3 positions almost immediately to fly by his side.
If the Mechanic plays well perhaps we rent him for one more year.
The fact of the matter is they lost next to nothing when previous Leaf managements would have sold the farm for what. We are keeping our cards in our hands. Let's play them wisely

 

[Guilt Trip]

They're going to have to go out and buy 2 permanent'ish centres this summer, no?  Unless we still think Nylander is going to end up there?

Babs said if Willie is good at centre, he's staying there...I think it was Seigel who posted that.

I?m wondering if a big loss tonight ignites even more fans about today?s non-events .

With borderline fans, yes. The Leafs, like any team could play a stinker at any time. Witness a few weeks ago in Boston. We have a really good team here that is still learning their way. Patience is still the right course of action.
And I like Coco-Puffs suggestion of using JVR as a PP specialist and cutting down his 5v5

 

[Frank E]

They're going to have to go out and buy 2 permanent'ish centres this summer, no?  Unless we still think Nylander is going to end up there?

Babs said if Willie is good at centre, he's staying there...I think it was Seigel who posted that.

I?m wondering if a big loss tonight ignites even more fans about today?s non-events .

With borderline fans, yes. The Leafs, like any team could play a stinker at any time. Witness a few weeks ago in Boston. We have a really good team here that is still learning their way. Patience is still the right course of action.
And I like Coco-Puffs suggestion of using JVR as a PP specialist and cutting down his 5v5

Well, thanks for the pep talk.

In reality, with this defense, they better plan on another Vezina like season from Andersen next year if they think they've got a shot at winning a Cup...and if they were really being patient, they wouldn't have bothered to spend a 2nd round pick to our rival team (we all know we're going to watch that pick's development for the next 5 years) for a rental 4th line centre.

It's ridiculous what they did with this deadline.