2012 NHL Entry Draft

[Mr. Leaf]

Leafs take Toronto native RW Connor Brown from Erie with the 156th pick.

 

[bustaheims]

mirtle: Two Leafs picks back to back in Round 6 now: Connor Brown and Ryan Rupert.

 

[maplesyrup]

What the Leafs really needed was high end talent in the system. Period.

I don't want to discredit the rest of your post by omitting it but;

 

[Tigger]

I was more-so responding to the sentiment from last night that we should calm down about not taking a forward because the scouts know more.

The same scouts that drafted Sondre Olden.

This is a slightly different situation, no?

 

[Kin]

Why does he have to be the BPA by a country mile? Not just the BPA period?

Because at some point the Leafs actually have to address their weaknesses. For all the people saying "just take the BPA and deal with the team's needs somehow" there are people who've watched "somehow" yield jack and squat for years now as the Leafs lose with the exact same deficiencies.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

mirtle: Two Leafs picks back to back in Round 6 now: Connor Brown and Ryan Rupert.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpKddtohboM[/youtube]

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Why does he have to be the BPA by a country mile? Not just the BPA period?

Because at some point the Leafs actually have to address their weaknesses. For all the people saying "just take the BPA and deal with the team's needs somehow" there are people who've watched "somehow" yield jack and squat for years now as the Leafs lose with the exact same deficiencies.

You're upset, I understand.

 

[Kin]

On a side note, I really like what the Islanders are doing.

 

[The Red Polar Bear]

So, I think I caught on the ticker that NJ will be hosting the next draft. Maybe they should have given up this year's first rounder after all

 

[Mr. Leaf]

mirtle: Two Leafs picks back to back in Round 6 now: Connor Brown and Ryan Rupert.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpKddtohboM[/youtube]

Doesn't Rupert have a brother (possibly twin) that also plays on London?  Maybe Burke will take him in round 7! 

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Doesn't Rupert have a brother (possibly twin) that also plays on London?  Maybe Burke will take him in round 7! 

Matt Rupert

 

[Bullfrog]

As I said, he doesn't need to state it.  Whether it's factually true or not.  The bravado statement was more of a general statement of how Burke generally conducts himself.  I mind the fact that he still has that attitude, but really has nothing to back it up over the last 4 years.  Why invite more criticism?  Why bring on more scrutiny to the Toronto Maple Leafs organization?

Just assuming Burke is stretching the truth a bit, I don't see the harm. Other than in guys like you (not meant as an insult) who analyze every word he says, it's a meaningless statement.

Perhaps it was simply meant to make Rielly feel good. In which case, this is nice thing to do for a teenager.

 

[Mr. Leaf]

As I said, he doesn't need to state it.  Whether it's factually true or not.  The bravado statement was more of a general statement of how Burke generally conducts himself.  I mind the fact that he still has that attitude, but really has nothing to back it up over the last 4 years.  Why invite more criticism?  Why bring on more scrutiny to the Toronto Maple Leafs organization?

Just assuming Burke is stretching the truth a bit, I don't see the harm. Other than in guys like you (not meant as an insult) who analyze every word he says, it's a meaningless statement.

Perhaps it was simply meant to make Rielly feel good. In which case, this is nice thing to do for a teenager.

That is the first thing that came to mind for me when I heard him say it.

 

[lamajama]

I would have thought it was July 1 but Bob McKenzie said Schultz becomes
a UFA today (Sat) at "3 PM" (not 100% sure of time).

I would suspect he signs rather quickly.

Let's hop we get another offensive D man.  8)

 

[gunnar36]

leafs should take Max Iafrate (Al's son) with their 7th rounder....can't believe no one has picked him up yet.

 

[Madferret]

That's Burkes MO - he's a grand-stander.
"We don't believe in ball-caps"...this guy is such a jackass

 

[maplesyrup]

Just assuming Burke is stretching the truth a bit, I don't see the harm. Other than in guys like you (not meant as an insult) who analyze every word he says, it's a meaningless statement.

Perhaps it was simply meant to make Rielly feel good. In which case, this is nice thing to do for a teenager.

Very true... I hadn't considered that.

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

2.  P-o'd about the selection because we needed skilled forwards way more than another guy who is too similar in skills to Gardiner.  I would have rolled the dice on Grigorenko, but would have been happy with Forsberg.  Couldn't care less that they fell a little -- WE need that kind of player.

This is where I struggle with the negativity. Yes. We need this kind of player but just when exactly will Forsberg be ready to step in and be a top six NHL player. One year? Two years? If the player we need NOW isn't available in the draft then you have to try to get him somewhere else and just draft the BPA I think. - It's a long summer... Let's see what happens.

Sure, and of course I wish Burke every success in trading for what we need.  But he could have (potentially) gotten what we need for nothing.  We didn't need another puck mover, and I (and many others) would dispute that Rielly was the BPA when Grigorenko and Forsberg were still on the board.  He would have to be the BPA of those 3 by a country mile to justify what Burke did, and his absurd statement about have Rielly ranked #1 is just an ex post facto justification.

Again though, why don't we NEED another puck mover? We're not married to these players. They're moveable.

So we'll trade for the forwards we could've picked ourselves? What's the point of having it be out of our control?

Down the line if Rielly is great but not what we need and Grigorenko or Forsberg are great and exactly what those teams need then what are we to do?

Ask real nice? Drastically overpay?

Teams don't just trade because you want to. Look at what Columbus are asking for Nash. We'll be at the mercy of other teams (who we're competing against) to make the deal we need to be successful. Not a situation that's conducive to getting the maximum benefit for the team.

 

[Tigger]

That's Burkes MO - he's a grand-stander.
"We don't believe in ball-caps"...this guy is such a jackass

You're fitting right in ferret...

 

[Madferret]

That's Burkes MO - he's a grand-stander.
"We don't believe in ball-caps"...this guy is such a jackass

You're fitting right in ferret...

He probably irritates me a lot more than he should, all things considered. I should be happy he's your GM.