bustaheims
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Nik the Trik said:
Long-term? No. This season? Yeah.
2015-2016 NHL Thread
- Thread starter Peter D.
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Long-term? No. This season? Yeah.
Since December 1st:
Kane - 55 points in 49 games (1.12 PPG)
Crosby - 61 points in 48 games (1.27 PPG)
Since January 1st:
Kane - 36 points in 34 games (1.06 PPG)
Crosby - 49 points in 35 games (1.40 PPG)
Since February 1st:
Kane - 19 points in 20 games (0.95 PPG)
Crosby - 35 points in 24 games (1.46 PPG)
Since March 1st:
Kane - 7 points in 9 games (0.78 PPG)
Crosby - 17 points in 11 games (1.55 PPG)
Typically hockey people love giving people extra credit for scoring late in the season as opposed to early in the season. The story could easily be the Kane scored a bunch of points in November while Crosby's the one who dominated in "crunch time". He also plays the more important position, and is leading the worse team/organization into the playoffs. I can definitely see this being a situation where we have different winners for the Lester and the Hart.
Kane - 55 points in 49 games (1.12 PPG)
Crosby - 61 points in 48 games (1.27 PPG)
Since January 1st:
Kane - 36 points in 34 games (1.06 PPG)
Crosby - 49 points in 35 games (1.40 PPG)
Since February 1st:
Kane - 19 points in 20 games (0.95 PPG)
Crosby - 35 points in 24 games (1.46 PPG)
Since March 1st:
Kane - 7 points in 9 games (0.78 PPG)
Crosby - 17 points in 11 games (1.55 PPG)
Typically hockey people love giving people extra credit for scoring late in the season as opposed to early in the season. The story could easily be the Kane scored a bunch of points in November while Crosby's the one who dominated in "crunch time". He also plays the more important position, and is leading the worse team/organization into the playoffs. I can definitely see this being a situation where we have different winners for the Lester and the Hart.
bustaheims said:
Who else is terrified to learn who Chicago's PHWA chapter nominates for the Masterton?
So...Melnyk's gone off the deep end before the Sens season has ended. Some gems from the presser to discuss the Sens 25th anniversary:
- Everyone is "under the microscope."
- Sens should be top 5/6 team in the league with their roster
- $68M US (bottom 10 in terms of salary cap spent) is more than enough to ice a winner
- Decision to start Matt O'Connor (who?) for the home opener was "Stupid"
This is going to play out well.
- Everyone is "under the microscope."
- Sens should be top 5/6 team in the league with their roster
- $68M US (bottom 10 in terms of salary cap spent) is more than enough to ice a winner
- Decision to start Matt O'Connor (who?) for the home opener was "Stupid"
This is going to play out well.
Omallley said:
*looks at their roster*
*laughs hysterically*
bustaheims
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Omallley said:
He's just trolling now, right? Like, he's the real life version of MadFerret.
His point was about the sens payroll is also interesting since just a few days ago Sportsnet had a piece looking at payroll and playoff success: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/cost-icing-winning-team-nhl/
It's also interesting because there's a lot of talk that they'll lose one of their better players, Mike Hoffman, solely because they won't pay him what he's worth.
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The Senators have cornered this market under Eugene Melnyk?s watch in recent years. His infamous ?cost-per-point? remarks are not only amusing to look back at, but they?re also rather telling. Because of how the Sens pinch pennies, they are wasting the prime years of their foundational centerpieces, who aren?t getting enough support.
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Put it this way: spending money doesn?t ensure you?ll win, but not spending money essentially thwarts your chances of legitimately competing. It?s as if there?s a requisite cover charge that you need to pay to enter the VIP area of a club and that?s where it?ll ultimately be decided who gets to go home with the Stanley Cup.
It's also interesting because there's a lot of talk that they'll lose one of their better players, Mike Hoffman, solely because they won't pay him what he's worth.
Heroic Shrimp
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Well, thanks for not pinching pennies on Dion, Ottawa.
Omallley said:
I'm pretty sure they actually save a bunch of salary over this season and next because of the deal. Obviously, after that is a problem though.
herman
Well-known member
Omallley said:
In the short run, he did get out of $9-ish M for next season (to replace it with $7.5M). Phaneuf's salary decreases towards the end of his contract too, so he gets a veteran blueliner for diminishing actual dollars, which is of some value to a budget team, plus a bunch of cheap forward options to replace three salary anchors from the roster fringe.
I'd say both teams were happy with what they got (and what they got out of).
hockeyfan1
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What is also important and a key component (re: payroll/salary/competitveness):
(From the article):
The most important factor in icing a competitive team is still a capable front office that spends its money judiciously and wisely allocates its resources.
(From the article):
The most important factor in icing a competitive team is still a capable front office that spends its money judiciously and wisely allocates its resources.
bustaheims
Active member
So, how long until Karlsson asks out? Or does he do the more standard wait until he's a pending UFA thing?
herman
Well-known member
Nik the Trik said:
Thanks for the reminder; I believe you are correct. Lou pretty much said the same thing the day after the trade, about now being Phaneuf's time, and not the Leafs' so the trade made sense.
Melnyk was pretty keyed to make some playoff bank, and that frustration sounds like a big part of this tirade.
herman said:
?The status quo will just get us there again next year. And this team cannot survive not making the playoffs. You can't just throw money at these things. We need to do it a different way and I think we are.?
Wonder if the low Canadian dollar is hitting Melnyk hard?