2015-2016 NHL Thread

[Kin]

Melnyk was pretty keyed to make some playoff bank, and that frustration sounds like a big part of this tirade.

?The status quo will just get us there again next year. And this team cannot survive not making the playoffs. You can't just throw money at these things. We need to do it a different way and I think we are.?

Wonder if the low Canadian dollar is hitting Melnyk hard?

It might but the Sens have always claimed that they only can turn a profit with playoff revenue. Which leaves them sort of in a perpetual no man's land. They can't scrap the team to rebuild and be profitable because of the cap floor but they also can't spend to the cap and really be a contender.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

Melnyk was pretty keyed to make some playoff bank, and that frustration sounds like a big part of this tirade.

?The status quo will just get us there again next year. And this team cannot survive not making the playoffs. You can't just throw money at these things. We need to do it a different way and I think we are.?

Wonder if the low Canadian dollar is hitting Melnyk hard?

It might but the Sens have always claimed that they only can turn a profit with playoff revenue. Which leaves them sort of in a perpetual no man's land. They can't scrap the team to rebuild and be profitable because of the cap floor but they also can't spend to the cap and really be a contender.

Good.

 

[Kin]

Good.

That's cold man.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

SensChirp ‏@SensChirp
Melnyk says he he has lots of experience in analytics. Horse racing analytics. Says experienced hockey guys don't need analytics. Yiikes.

Stay gold, Melynk.

 

[herman]

So this is what it's like watching last decade's Leafs from afar...

 

[bustaheims]

So this is what it's like watching last decade's Leafs from afar...

This might even be more frustrating for their fans, since Melnyk can't be fired.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

So this is what it's like watching last decade's Leafs from afar...

That's great!

I'm assuming the devilish kid is supposed to be Bettman and the fire he started was introducing the salary cap?

 

[herman]

So this is what it's like watching last decade's Leafs from afar...

This might even be more frustrating for their fans, since Melnyk can't be fired.

I can see the Sens getting purchased in the next 5 years. Quebec or Seattle?

Melnyk on a firing spree means he'll be paying two sets of management: one to sit; the other to put out the fire with the dollar down and the on-ice product a few steps short of playoff contention. That'll be the death spiral.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So this is what it's like watching last decade's Leafs from afar...

This might even be more frustrating for their fans, since Melnyk can't be fired.

It also sounds like when Bryan Murray does eventually step down, he'll be replaced from in-house options. I'm not a big fan of that when a team is in the kind of shape the sens are in. They need a fresh set of eyes there in charge.

 

[herman]

I'm assuming the devilish kid is supposed to be Bettman and the fire he started was introducing the salary cap?

"We profoundly regret the suffering this has caused our fans, our business partners and the thousands of people who depend on our industry for their livelihoods. If you want to know how I feel, I'll summarize it in one word ? terrible."

 

[bustaheims]

I can see the Sens getting purchased in the next 5 years. Quebec or Seattle?

Vegas, after the BoG decides they don't want to only bring in one team through expansion, and decides this is the easiest way to address the East/West Conference imbalance.

 

[herman]

I can see the Sens getting purchased in the next 5 years. Quebec or Seattle?

Vegas, after the BoG decides they don't want to only bring in one team through expansion, and decides this is the easiest way to address the East/West Conference imbalance.

That would be a neat and tidy solution. I was going to guess Vegas at first but figured they would already be in place by the time Melnyk lets go.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I'm assuming the devilish kid is supposed to be Bettman and the fire he started was introducing the salary cap?

"We profoundly regret the suffering this has caused our fans, our business partners and the thousands of people who depend on our industry for their livelihoods. If you want to know how I feel, I'll summarize it in one word ? terrible."

That is a spectacular quote pull sir, you have a great memory.

 

[herman]

That is a spectacular quote pull sir, you have a great memory.

Nay, good sir; you give me too much credit. I merely have access to Google and a general idea of what I wanted to convey with the joke.

 

[cabber24]

Crappy CAD dollar and the 7 Canadian teams all in the bottom 10 of the league. I imagine all Canadian teams are hurting this year, not just Ottawa. Scary comments from Melnyk, I would hate to see Ottawa loose their team. I wonder about the sustainability of WPG as well, there is a reason it didn't work the first time around.

You would think the cap would be going down? How is it possible it's not? New TV deal? Maybe Bettman is waiting for a bad year to use expansion dollars to hide the real picture.

 

[bustaheims]

You would think the cap would be going down? How is it possible it's not? New TV deal? Maybe Bettman is waiting for a bad year to use expansion dollars to hide the real picture.

The NHLPA has the option to increase the cap by 5% regardless of revenue. Without that, the cap is expected to be pretty flat. The difference between the dollar today and the dollar last June isn't huge (~2.5 cents), and increased ticket costs, TV deals, inflation, etc, will have largely covered that gap.

Also, for what it's worth, expansion dollars don't impact the cap. They're not included in HRR.

 

[L K]

You would think the cap would be going down? How is it possible it's not? New TV deal? Maybe Bettman is waiting for a bad year to use expansion dollars to hide the real picture.

The NHLPA has the option to increase the cap by 5% regardless of revenue. Without that, the cap is expected to be pretty flat. The difference between the dollar today and the dollar last June isn't huge (~2.5 cents), and increased ticket costs, TV deals, inflation, etc, will have largely covered that gap.

Also, for what it's worth, expansion dollars don't impact the cap. They're not included in HRR.

With revenue sharing between the league/players does the cap really matter anymore.  Ultimately numbers are going to roll back to the revenue split.  Sure, the upfront number is going to be bigger but ultimately it's just more money going into escrow.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

The Canucks see Ottawa's "we don't need analytics" and raise them a "we don't understand basic principles of the CBA":

MOST EMBARRASSING SIGNING

Not a lot has gone right for the Canucks recently. You can add Nikita Tryamkin?s contract to that list.

The Canucks tried to sign him earlier than they did, but to a three-year-deal. It was a contract that was rejected by the NHL because it was not in accordance with CBA rules.

The NHL subsequently sent out an email blast to the league that wasn?t exactly flattering for Canucks management.

The email was sent to Benning, but all the league?s GMs and AGMs were CC?d.

In it, the NHL pointed out that Tryamkin?s date of birth is August, 30 1994, and by CBA rules it means he?s 22 years old. Players who are 22- or 23-years-old are to be signed to two-year entry level deals, not three.

Simply, age, as assigned by the CBA, is the player?s age on September 15 of the calendar year in which he signs a contract.

I understand this isn?t the end of days, because it didn?t cost the Canucks.

Doesn?t mean it?s not a little alarming, and a bad look for a team that?s had a couple of contractual hiccups after moving on from one AGM, and basically using two people to replace him.

They may need three.

The guy mentioned at the bottom was Laurence Gilman, who was generally considered one of the most knowledgeable guys in the league when it came to the CBA. If he was still with the team we probably wouldn't have Corrado right now.

 

[bustaheims]

One little correction/clarification for the above - the September 15th cutoff applies to ELCs only. It's age as of July 1st for everyone else.

 

[Kin]

It also sounds like when Bryan Murray does eventually step down, he'll be replaced from in-house options. I'm not a big fan of that when a team is in the kind of shape the sens are in. They need a fresh set of eyes there in charge.

I guess but like I was talking about above, given the strange sort of parameters the Sens have to operate in I think Murray's done a half-way decent job of putting together a team. As Leafs fans we should know that it almost doesn't matter who you get to run the team if you're asking them to continually deliver playoff spots.