2017-2018 NHL Thread

[Kin]

Are the Flames losing money? Probably not. But the also probably don't make as much money as one would expect. According to Forbes, the Flames made $18m for the 2015-2016 season.

Only 18 million in profit? Well, we should definitely take money from public services for them.

Few are in the public spotlight like a professional sports team. Teams can have a very positive impact on a local economy and justify a subsidy (at least in relation to other businesses that receive subsidies). Here is an example of what one player, LeBron James, has had on Cleveland's economy:  (http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/02/lebron_james_cleveland_economi.html)

A team can have a positive effect on a local economy, putting hundreds of millions of dollars into public financing for a stadium almost universally does not have a positive effect on a local economy:

https://www.brookings.edu/book/sports-jobs-and-taxes/

And sports teams by and large contribute less than any other recipient of public funds would. Sports teams, for instance, don't create much in the way of permanent employment compared to, say, giving money for an automaker to open a factory.

 

[bustaheims]

Only 18 million in profit? Well, we should definitely take money from public services for them.

I mean, it's not a spectacular ROI, but, yeah, they're not exactly screaming "I need federal funding."

 

[L K]

Just a gentle reminder.  Please support the poor defenseless owners/NHL when they lock out the players for their next CBA.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Pasta sign for the mark of the devil x6.

Could be a good Nylander comparable.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Pasta sign for the mark of the devil x6.

Could be a good Nylander comparable.

Nylander will probably sign for $6.7mil now just to say he got more than Pasta.

 

[herman]

Pasta sign for the mark of the devil x6.

Could be a good Nylander comparable.

This was the one time I wanted Sweeney to do something well (or flame out considerably), and he stepped up.

 

[bustaheims]

Pasta sign for the mark of the devil x6.

Could be a good Nylander comparable.

Pastrnak, Gaudreau, and Forsberg all signed for 6 years, $6M-$6.75M. Sets a pretty good market for Nylander and probably Marner, as well.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Pastrnak, Gaudreau, and Forsberg all signed for 6 years, $6M-$6.75M. Sets a pretty good market for Nylander and probably Marner, as well.

Lol Edm

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Pastrnak, Gaudreau, and Forsberg all signed for 6 years, $6M-$6.75M. Sets a pretty good market for Nylander and probably Marner, as well.

Lol Edm

You're forgetting the sorry you have to live in Edmonton premium. lol

 

[herman]

Buffalo is really trying to copy the Leafs at every level. They've got their own bromance brewing.

https://m.imgur.com/r/hockey/u0uUNJz

 

[Zee]

Buffalo is really trying to copy the Leafs at every level. They've got their own bromance brewing.

https://m.imgur.com/r/hockey/u0uUNJz

They're like the anti-Leafs though.  Where Matthews is this, by all accounts, level headed kid, kind and humble, but with a passion to win, Eichel seems like a jerk who gets people fired.  Even if that isn't true I don't like Buffalo so it's true for me.

 

[herman]

Eichel's pretty awesome actually, and doesn't over filter his thoughts.

If he weren't playing hockey, he'd be interested in joining the CIA.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

With Pittsburgh looking for a 3rd line C, do we see this as a possible landing spot for Bozak? They only have 3.2 million in cap space so some money would have to move around but do they have anything on the back end that could be of interest?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

With Pittsburgh looking for a 3rd line C, do we see this as a possible landing spot for Bozak? They only have 3.2 million in cap space so some money would have to move around but do they have anything on the back end that could be of interest?

There's been some talk of that today here: http://www.tmlfans.ca/community/index.php?topic=4559.msg302518#msg302518

 

[Zee]

With Pittsburgh looking for a 3rd line C, do we see this as a possible landing spot for Bozak? They only have 3.2 million in cap space so some money would have to move around but do they have anything on the back end that could be of interest?

There's been some talk of that today here: http://www.tmlfans.ca/community/index.php?topic=4559.msg302518#msg302518

Bozak and Kessel together again?

 

[OldTimeHockey]

With Pittsburgh looking for a 3rd line C, do we see this as a possible landing spot for Bozak? They only have 3.2 million in cap space so some money would have to move around but do they have anything on the back end that could be of interest?

There's been some talk of that today here: http://www.tmlfans.ca/community/index.php?topic=4559.msg302518#msg302518

Thanks

 

[Bender]

Buffalo is really trying to copy the Leafs at every level. They've got their own bromance brewing.

https://m.imgur.com/r/hockey/u0uUNJz

They're like the anti-Leafs though.  Where Matthews is this, by all accounts, level headed kid, kind and humble, but with a passion to win, Eichel seems like a jerk who gets people fired.  Even if that isn't true I don't like Buffalo so it's true for me.

He really does come across as a bit of an entitled ass.

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[L K]

I'd just like to throw out my daily "screw off owners" over the Calgary nonsense.

 

[Kin]

The Flames who are definitely not campaigning for a new arena, just put up a bit on their site about how their proposal was totally fair, the City are being jerks and how a big hockey arena makes money rain from the sky on everyone:

https://www.nhl.com/flames/fans/arena

Meanwhile, some of us understand the concept of "opportunity cost".

 

[Kin]

I mean, this is just how dishonest and hypocritical the Flames are being here. They claim that the City's proposal involves the Flames paying for the entire 500 million dollar cost of the Arena. However, what the city proposed was that a third of the cost of the building comes from a tax on Flames tickets. In effect making hockey fans, who presumably are the most pro-Flames people in the city, foot the bill.

What the Flames know, however, is that they're already going to charge people the most they can so they can maximize revenue so, to them, in order to accommodate a 2 dollar(or whatever) tax per ticket they'd have to lower ticket prices by two dollars.

In their minds, that means they'd be paying the tax.

However, this logic doesn't then apply to their understanding of the Community Revitilization Levy(or, if you're not George Orwell's understudy, a development tax). See there, Money would come in off of taxes on development that would ordinarily go to the City but, instead, would be used to pay for the Arena. Sure, that would mean the City would then forgo tax money that they could otherwise make on a comparable development but in this case you see, that just counts as made up money that doesn't negatively affect anyone.