I think it's too early to panic or reach firm conclusions about the team. That being said I think it would be great if they could somehow figure out some cap space flexibility. I'm not sure if they can offload Ceci, and if they can I have no idea what they will have to pony up in terms of prospects/picks. It kind of makes the Zeitsev trade seem stupid. It was six of one for a half dozen of the other.Guilt Trip said:
2019-2020 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion
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sickbeast said:
I think to free up cap space they can trade Kapanen. They probably wanted to see how some of the other guys were going to fit on the team before they started exploring this route. A third line of Mikheyev - Kerfoot - Moore would be good. It frees up 3 million in cap space. Also, they could bring up Aberg or Bracco if someone gets hurt. Target some team that needs speed on the wing and see what you can get.
Coco-puffs
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sickbeast said:
1. No, the Zaitsev trade was definitely not stupid. We needed the future cap hit gone to give us flexibility to spend that money on better d-men down the line (and preferably this year, but Ceci is what happened- there wasn't much else available aside from Gardiner and his ask was too high when Ceci was signed)
2. I don't care if we trade Ceci for a bag of pucks. As long as he's not a negative asset where we have to give up something else to trade him. I'd rather have Dermott in the top-4 and Sandin called up from the Marlies:
Muzzin-Barrie
Rielly-Dermott
Sandin-Holl
7th D (Marincin or Gravel)
EDIT: Also, if Babs insists on putting Rielly out there against the opposition top lines maybe its time to give up on the handedness thing for Rielly and put him with our best defensive defenseman:
Muzzin-Rielly
Dermott-Barrie
Sandin-Holl
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1188833540613595137
Dermott looks poised to return tomorrow night. Rielly missed yet another practice, so Gravel is just filling in for him there.
Dermott looks poised to return tomorrow night. Rielly missed yet another practice, so Gravel is just filling in for him there.
Deebo said:
Gravel or Petan can go back down immediately.
Guilt Trip
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Not with Babs as head coach.L K said:
Guilt Trip said:
He couldn't make Winnipeg. He can't make the Leafs. 30 teams declined to claim him on waivers this month. Petan seems like a nice guy and it's possible that he can still put everything together, but at this stage in his career it's more likely that he just isn't an above replacement level NHLer.
Guilt Trip
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Probably not but Babs never gave him a shot here. He's played 9 games for the Leafs since trade deadline.CarltonTheBear said:
herman
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https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2019/10/28/20934527/toronto-maple-leafs-standings-points-mike-bacock-corsi-luck-pdo-frederik-andersen-auston-matthews
In summary, let us have emotional reactions to the score.
Going by the 6 pts every 5 game segment gauge that the coach likes to use:
1. 5 pts | 5 Points per Segment
2. 7 pts | 6 pps
3. 2 pts | 2 games to go
4 B2Bs in this current span. The last two came inside the span of 6 days and we picked up 3 pts; Leafs picked up 5 pts off their first two sets of B2Bs.
For fun: Tampa Bay
1. 5 pts | 5 pps
2. 7 pts | 6 pps
3. not played yet
1 B2B in the first week and they lost both games.
In summary, let us have emotional reactions to the score.
Going by the 6 pts every 5 game segment gauge that the coach likes to use:
1. 5 pts | 5 Points per Segment
2. 7 pts | 6 pps
3. 2 pts | 2 games to go
4 B2Bs in this current span. The last two came inside the span of 6 days and we picked up 3 pts; Leafs picked up 5 pts off their first two sets of B2Bs.
For fun: Tampa Bay
1. 5 pts | 5 pps
2. 7 pts | 6 pps
3. not played yet
1 B2B in the first week and they lost both games.
hockeyfan1
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The Leafs are finding ways load managing Andersen:
https://theathletic.com/1312473/2019/10/28/monday-morning-leafs-report-imminent-lineup-changes-kasperi-kapanen-at-home-again-new-opportunity-for-nic-petan/
https://theathletic.com/1312473/2019/10/28/monday-morning-leafs-report-imminent-lineup-changes-kasperi-kapanen-at-home-again-new-opportunity-for-nic-petan/
Zee said:Oh great, instead of actual game rest they'll give him practice rest and use that to explain how it's ok he played 70 games this year. :
Come on now, the Leafs have 14 B2Bs this season. So Andersen will only play 68 games.
Highlander
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Haven't they played 9 of them as yet?CarltonTheBear said:Zee said:Oh great, instead of actual game rest they'll give him practice rest and use that to explain how it's ok he played 70 games this year. :
Come on now, the Leafs have 14 B2Bs this season. So Andersen will only play 68 games.
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1189195149294874624
Hyman coming back before Tavares would have caused some additional cap space problems, so I'm sure the Leafs aren't too bummed about this.
Hyman coming back before Tavares would have caused some additional cap space problems, so I'm sure the Leafs aren't too bummed about this.
Frank E
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We're like 13 games into these new deals for Marner and Matthews...Marner is pacing 94 points, and Matthews is pacing a 55 goal season. Tough to get real critical on price/performance on the offensive production.
The fact that the Leafs are 3rd last in the league in goals against is more of an issue here, bettering only LA and Florida, but I take it there aren't any price/performance issues for the cap hits on the d-men, and everybody thinks Andersen will bounce back from his current 36th place .904 SV%.
I don't think we're talking about any offense price/production issues on this team, it's getting them to play tighter defence without snuffing out the offense that's the opportunity here.
The fact that the Leafs are 3rd last in the league in goals against is more of an issue here, bettering only LA and Florida, but I take it there aren't any price/performance issues for the cap hits on the d-men, and everybody thinks Andersen will bounce back from his current 36th place .904 SV%.
I don't think we're talking about any offense price/production issues on this team, it's getting them to play tighter defence without snuffing out the offense that's the opportunity here.
It's pretty crazy to see that Marner's on pace for 94 points when even his biggest fans would agree that he hasn't been himself this season.