2019-2020 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[herman]

Marner?s pretty effective on the powerplay if he isn?t shooting from above the circles. When he?s shooting, Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, and even Rielly are not getting shots.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Marner?s pretty effective on the powerplay if he isn?t shooting from above the circles. When he?s shooting, Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, and even Rielly are not getting shots.

He's shooting at about twice the rate he was last season. Matthews' shot rates are about the same (actually slightly higher). Tavares, bafflingly enough, didn't take a single shot on the powerplay prior to his injury. edit: to clarify, I mean he hasn't had a shot on net.

 

[herman]

Marner?s pretty effective on the powerplay if he isn?t shooting from above the circles. When he?s shooting, Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, and even Rielly are not getting shots.

He's shooting at about twice the rate he was last season. Matthews' shot rates are about the same (actually slightly higher). Tavares, bafflingly enough, didn't take a single shot on the powerplay prior to his injury. edit: to clarify, I mean he hasn't had a shot on net.

I know they?re trying to draw the PK check off of Matthews a bit to keep them honest. I think Nylander on the other flank has proven to be a very effective complement and other-threat to Matthews? ridiculous catch and release.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1190299631516868608

Oh... k

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/hennytweets/status/1190288084908285952

This is different-ish from Masters? lineup, but more fun yes?

 

[Guilt Trip]

https://twitter.com/hennytweets/status/1190288084908285952

This is different-ish from Masters? lineup, but more fun yes?

But he amen-d it an hour later saying actual line up..
Rielly /CC
Dermott/Holl

 

[CarltonTheBear]

This is different-ish from Masters? lineup, but more fun yes?

But he amen-d it an hour later saying actual line up..
Rielly /CC
Dermott/Holl

I've said this before, never go to Henny for lines. He's probably due for an appointment with the optometrist.

 

[ZBBM]

Maybe they'll trade Marincin to the Flyers before the game starts and he can play for them.

 

[ZBBM]

And has anyone else noticed that the Leafs have absolutely fallen apart since they sent Sandin down?

IMA. JUST. SAYIN. THAT.

 

[Bullfrog]

And has anyone else noticed that the Leafs have absolutely fallen apart since they sent Sandin down?

IMA. JUST. SAYIN. THAT.

http://explosm.net/comics/3668/

 

[herman]

This is different-ish from Masters? lineup, but more fun yes?

But he amen-d it an hour later saying actual line up..
Rielly /CC
Dermott/Holl

I've said this before, never go to Henny for lines. He's probably due for an appointment with the optometrist.

I definitely remembered your wise words before extolling the virtues of Justin Holl, re: Henny?s Tweets, but all I was saying was it was more fun that way.

What I think happens is more situational pairings than concrete groups.

Marincin-Ceci for a DZ draw, Rielly-Barrie for the occasional fun time. Dermott-Holl, Marincin-Holl are all viable options as well. Marincin-Barrie could be weird fun to see who would give up the puck in the most unlikely and disastrous way possible.

 

[princedpw]

My preferred PP lineup:

Rielly
Marner - Tavares - Matthews
Johnsson

Barrie
Matthews - Kerfoot - Nylander 
Tavares

Keep Matthews and Tavares (but especially Matthews) out the whole time. Make the other guys work.

 

[princedpw]

Also, more speed through the neutral zone on the pp.

 

[Strangelove]

And has anyone else noticed that the Leafs have absolutely fallen apart since they sent Sandin down?

IMA. JUST. SAYIN. THAT.

Do we know why he is in the minors? Is it only for control? He's a better option than 3 of their current top 6.

 

[herman]

And has anyone else noticed that the Leafs have absolutely fallen apart since they sent Sandin down?

IMA. JUST. SAYIN. THAT.

Do we know why he is in the minors? Is it only for control? He's a better option than 3 of their current top 6.

In the NHL, Sandin is:
$$$, they want to shelter his confidence so no PK or top NHL minutes, they have Rielly and Barrie already so no PP

In the AHL, Sandin can:
Play top pair, play PP, play PK, do everything and play 30 min a night to even out some inconsistencies in his game (he's got some risky giveaway issues)

 

[ZBBM]

And has anyone else noticed that the Leafs have absolutely fallen apart since they sent Sandin down?

IMA. JUST. SAYIN. THAT.

Do we know why he is in the minors? Is it only for control? He's a better option than 3 of their current top 6.

In the NHL, Sandin is:
$$$, they want to shelter his confidence so no PK or top NHL minutes, they have Rielly and Barrie already so no PP

In the AHL, Sandin can:
Play top pair, play PP, play PK, do everything and play 30 min a night to even out some inconsistencies in his game (he's got some risky giveaway issues)

All true.

But Strangelove is right too.  The question is how much will he gain at the margins in the AHL vs. making mistakes on the job with the Leafs.  A not unreasonable approach would be to let him play the PK and gradually ramp up his minutes.

We've already hashed through whether letting him play with the Marlies this year is undercutting their short-term investments in Barrie/Muzzin.  I think it does.

And, to return to my original post, it's only half-facetious.  The defense has looked worse since he left.

 

[Deebo]

And, to return to my original post, it's only half-facetious.  The defense has looked worse since he left.

Point percentage for the team has been pretty close before and after his demotion though.

.583  before vs. .563 after

1 extra point after would raise it to .625

 

[4EVRLEAFAN]

Didn't know where to put this but I just read that Gilmour is coming back.
https://www.tsn.ca/doug-gilmour-leaves-ohl-s-frontenacs-for-role-with-toronto-maple-leafs-1.1390829

 

[ZBBM]

And, to return to my original post, it's only half-facetious.  The defense has looked worse since he left.

Point percentage for the team has been pretty close before and after his demotion though.

.583  before vs. .563 after

1 extra point after would raise it to .625

Yes, .563 is worser than .583.  It is worser.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/mapleleafs/status/1190336861270609920

Look at this epic skill that is definitely worth a 1st rd pick