I think that is what ultimately knocks Gauthier out of the lineup permanently. He has the size to play that role but refuses to. I don't think I've ever seen someone so large be so non physical. If Marchment can bring that and stay out of the penalty box (and of course stay healthy) it might be the end of Gauthier's time with the Leafs.dekedastardly said:
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Guilt Trip
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Marchment is like Hyman. He's hard on the forecheck, will lay a big hit, looks to be a better skater and probably has better hands. Also goes hard to the net, isn't afraid to rough it up but I wouldn't call him a fighter. He's had 4 fights I believe in his AHL career. He's tough like his father.Chris said:
OldTimeHockey
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herman said:
He is bang on with that assessment as well.
He doesn't have to be a fighter, I'd just like him to use the body and maybe knock a guy down when needed. Leaf players were getting targeted all night last night and there was no response. Yeah, they won the game but they also almost lost a few guys in the process. In recent games Dermott has been crushed at least twice and no response. Gauthier is big enough to put even someone like Foligno on his ass. Should have.Guilt Trip said:
L K
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Zee said:
It's interesting from a developmental perspective. How many players get typecast in limited roles and then have their development stagnated because they get set as a 3rd liner until an overager in the juniors and then go on to be middling players in the AHL. Maybe a year or two of top 6 ECHL play gets some of those skills back and actually lets some guys get back on a prospect track.
herman
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We only need these projects to pan out and be effective for a year or two at NHL levels, even if they?re like 28. Our core is largely set and if one of these projects comes through in a big way and displaces a core or secondary piece, that?s a huge value swing. Otherwise, we get cheap NHL players who know our systems inside out and they get a pay day after a season or two here before being traded for fresh assets/projects.
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Chris said:
Re: about Gauthier. Could it be that because he once recovered from debilitating injuries, he avoids that type if physicality?
He would be better suited for a team that could use a player with his style of play rather than the Leafs. The differences between Gauthier & Marchment will be like night and day (in physical play).
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?Thinking big?...sprinkled with plenty of optimism:
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herman
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https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/tavares-up-close-look-at-nylander-has-leafs-captain-impressed
WOW. Toronto Sun* runs an article complimenting Nylander. Funny it has to be transmitted through good ol' Ontario boy and blue collar captain John Tavares to impute his reputation into the assessment.
* Terry Koshan is actually quite good, as far as Toronto newpaper sports writers go, especially relative to his colleagues.
WOW. Toronto Sun* runs an article complimenting Nylander. Funny it has to be transmitted through good ol' Ontario boy and blue collar captain John Tavares to impute his reputation into the assessment.
* Terry Koshan is actually quite good, as far as Toronto newpaper sports writers go, especially relative to his colleagues.
herman said:
Speaking of those colleagues... Lance Hornby gave Nylander a solid C+ in his mid-season grades.
herman
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CarltonTheBear said:
I know my defense of Nylander is meme-level by now, but to be fair, I?ve been like this for like 4.5 years already.
Like it wouldn?t surprise me if the latter years of Tavares? contract sees him shifted to Nylander?s wing while Matthews continues to
Atlantic standings the day Babcock was fired:
Atlantic standings today:
Atlantic standings between the day Babcock was fired and today:
| Position | Team | GP | PTS |
| 1 | BOS | 21 | 31 |
| 2 | MTL | 22 | 27 |
| 3 | FLA | 21 | 27 |
| 4 | BUF | 21 | 23 |
| 5 | TOR | 23 | 22 |
| 6 | TB | 18 | 20 |
Atlantic standings today:
| Position | Team | GP | PTS |
| 1 | BOS | 42 | 59 |
| 2 | TOR | 42 | 51 |
| 3 | TB | 39 | 48 |
| 4 | FLA | 40 | 47 |
| 5 | BUF | 42 | 43 |
| 6 | MTL | 41 | 42 |
Atlantic standings between the day Babcock was fired and today:
| Position | Team | GP | PTS |
| 1 | TOR | 19 | 29 |
| 2 | TB | 21 | 28 |
| 3 | BOS | 20 | 27 |
| 4 | FLA | 19 | 20 |
| 5 | BUF | 21 | 20 |
| 6 | MTL | 20 | 16 |
ZBBM
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I guess the logical conclusion from those standings is that Sheldon Keefe is inspiring the Tampa Bay Lightning. The guy cuts a wide swathe.
Seriously, we are on to having a pretty fair sample size and it does indeed look like there is a genuine Keefe Effect. I guess the question is whether Babcock's Right Way is what will succeed in the playoffs or whether Dubas Unshackled is where to lay your chips.
Seriously, we are on to having a pretty fair sample size and it does indeed look like there is a genuine Keefe Effect. I guess the question is whether Babcock's Right Way is what will succeed in the playoffs or whether Dubas Unshackled is where to lay your chips.