2020-2021 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

[Frank E]

A somewhat minor signing that I'd expect the Leafs to make soon is to bring in a 3rd goaltender. I noticed a few viable candidates for that like Anton Forsberg and Keith Kinkaid have already signed with other teams. Guys like Louis Domingue or Scott Wedgewood are a couple names that pop out as goalies with NHL experience that are looking to slot in as a 3G guy. Or maybe they even bring back Michael Hutchinson for that role.

No way they bring back Hutch. Don't see him wanting to come back either lol. They'll need a guy for the Marlies unles they plan on running the kids. Don't see them doing that though.

David Ayres has nhl experience

He's won more than he's lost.

 

[dappleganger]

Any chance Taylor Hall entertains a 1-year, $5m-$6m contract from the Leafs to flank Tavares and Marner for the year? It would mean dumping Kerfoot and Johnsson, and possibly Mikheyev.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Any chance Taylor Hall entertains a 1-year, $5m-$6m contract from the Leafs to flank Tavares and Marner for the year? It would mean dumping Kerfoot and Johnsson, and possibly Mikheyev.

No. Losing Mikheyev will only save you maybe 500k. If you bring in Hall and take out 2 roster forwards, you'll need to add another forward, so Hall literally costs you 7 mill. Even at 5 mill, Dermott at 1.5, Mik at 1.25 we'd have about 340K in space. We still need a 3rd line centre. To do a Hall deal, you're now getting into moving a Hyman, Holl scenario and we really can't afford to lose either of those guys unless there's another deal for a RD.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1315014105103773697
He doesn?t have much of a case to balloon this number

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1315014105103773697
He doesn?t have much of a case to balloon this number

I mean he scored at a 48-point pace last season. Only having 39 NHL games under his belt is the counter argument but this could be an interesting decision.

 

[Arn]

Would we take Sparks as our third goalie?

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Would we take Sparks as our third goalie?

Meh. Baggage.

 

[Frank E]

https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1315014105103773697
He doesn?t have much of a case to balloon this number

I mean he scored at a 48-point pace last season. Only having 39 NHL games under his belt is the counter argument but this could be an interesting decision.

He had a bit of a run there, but it all seemed a little unsustainable to me. 

He was pointless in the "playoffs" too.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1315014105103773697
He doesn?t have much of a case to balloon this number

I mean he scored at a 48-point pace last season. Only having 39 NHL games under his belt is the counter argument but this could be an interesting decision.

He had a bit of a run there, but it all seemed a little unsustainable to me. 

He was pointless in the "playoffs" too.

He'll probably get awarded the same he played for in 19/20. 925K or something like that. And he'll take it, or go back to russia and make more, I suppose.

 

[Frank E]

https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1315014105103773697
He doesn?t have much of a case to balloon this number

I mean he scored at a 48-point pace last season. Only having 39 NHL games under his belt is the counter argument but this could be an interesting decision.

He had a bit of a run there, but it all seemed a little unsustainable to me. 

He was pointless in the "playoffs" too.

He'll probably get awarded the same he played for in 19/20. 925K or something like that. And he'll take it, or go back to russia and make more, I suppose.

Yeah, I think maybe they'd best make a Plan B for Mikheyev's spot.  The fact that he's even going this route would suggest to me that money is kind of a big deal here, since he's unlikely to see a big difference from his QO. 

I think we may have seen the last of Mikheyev. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Yeah, I think maybe they'd best make a Plan B for Mikheyev's spot.  The fact that he's even going this route would suggest to me that money is kind of a big deal here, since he's unlikely to see a big difference from his QO. 

I think we may have seen the last of Mikheyev. 

This seems like a big overreaction to a pretty standard RFA move.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Yeah, I think maybe they'd best make a Plan B for Mikheyev's spot.  The fact that he's even going this route would suggest to me that money is kind of a big deal here, since he's unlikely to see a big difference from his QO. 

I think we may have seen the last of Mikheyev. 

This seems like a big overreaction to a pretty standard RFA move.

Exactly. If he didn't file, the Leafs probably would have after 5pm today. It's kind of weird for Mikheyev camp to file tho because it gives the Leafs the choice of accepting a 1 or 2 year deal and that'll buy 1 year of his UFA status. I think a 2 year deal gets done before they go before the judge.
Now Dermott has to accept or sit. That's it so I expect him to come in at 1.5 give or take.

 

[Highlander]

Kind of foolish, Mikheyev quickly became a fan favourite, even getting his great moniker "Souperman".  In Toronto this is no mean feat.  Look at the endorsements and such that would have followed him here. Hopefully he will stay but he has rocked the boat without seemingly a lot of foresight.

But then I am making some assumptions which could be wrong.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Kind of foolish, Mikheyev quickly became a fan favourite, even getting his great moniker "Souperman".  In Toronto this is no mean feat.  Look at the endorsements and such that would have followed him here. Hopefully he will stay but he has rocked the boat without seemingly a lot of foresight.

But then I am making some assumptions which could be wrong.

You're definitely making assumptions which could be wrong with all due respect. Filing for arbitration is completely his right as a player and 90% of the time it seems like things get settled before there's even a hearing.

 

[Highlander]

Kind of foolish, Mikheyev quickly became a fan favourite, even getting his great moniker "Souperman".  In Toronto this is no mean feat.  Look at the endorsements and such that would have followed him here. Hopefully he will stay but he has rocked the boat without seemingly a lot of foresight.

But then I am making some assumptions which could be wrong.

You're definitely making assumptions which could be wrong with all due respect. Filing for arbitration is completely his right as a player and 90% of the time it seems like things get settled before there's even a hearing.

I guess I got Souper bent out of shape over this..

 

[Guilt Trip]

Kind of foolish, Mikheyev quickly became a fan favourite, even getting his great moniker "Souperman".  In Toronto this is no mean feat.  Look at the endorsements and such that would have followed him here. Hopefully he will stay but he has rocked the boat without seemingly a lot of foresight.

But then I am making some assumptions which could be wrong.

You're definitely making assumptions which could be wrong with all due respect. Filing for arbitration is completely his right as a player and 90% of the time it seems like things get settled before there's even a hearing.

I guess I got Souper bent out of shape over this..

No reason to.

 

[Highlander]

For some reason I thought it was worse than it was, another one of my Covid overreactions.

 

[herman]

2019 Opening Day
Kapanen-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Moore
Timashov-Shore-Gauthier
Spezza

Rielly-Ceci
Muzzin-Barrie
Sandin-Marincin
Holl, Liljegren

Andersen
Hutchinson (I think... honestly, I don't remember)

So far:

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Mikheyev (RFA)-Tavares-Nylander
Robertson-Kerfoot-Barabanov
Simmonds-Engvall-Spezza
Boyd, Anderson

Muzzin-Holl
Rielly-Brodie
Lehtonen-Dermott (RFA)
Bogosian, Sandin, Liljegren, Marincin

Andersen
Campbell

 

[princedpw]

2019 Opening Day
Kapanen-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Moore
Timashov-Shore-Gauthier
Spezza

Rielly-Ceci
Muzzin-Barrie
Sandin-Marincin
Holl, Liljegren

Andersen
Hutchinson (I think... honestly, I don't remember)

So far:

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Mikheyev (RFA)-Tavares-Nylander
Robertson-Kerfoot-Barabanov
Simmonds-Engvall-Spezza
Boyd, Anderson

Muzzin-Holl
Rielly-Brodie
Lehtonen-Dermott (RFA)
Bogosian, Sandin, Liljegren, Marincin

Andersen
Campbell

I think I saw that the Leafs have 2.3 million in cap space with 11F, 7D and 3 RFAs:  Dermott, Mikheyev, Anderson.  Anderson seems more-or-less like a minimum salary guy given his track record so far.

2.3 million doesn?t seem like enough for Dermott and Mikheyev.  What happens next?  Any predictions?  Replacing Engvall with an 800K guy gets you an extra 450K, giving you 2.7 million.  Is that enough for Dermott and Mikheyev?  Perhaps?  Barely?

 

[Kin]

2.3 million doesn?t seem like enough for Dermott and Mikheyev.  What happens next? 

For what it's worth, I think it would be. I think you could offer both guys a million per on one year deals and I don't think they'd have much of a leg to stand on in terms of expecting a lot more.

But that said, I'm not entirely sure I see Dermott's spot in the lineup right now. You have Sandin and Liljegren who hopefully look ready come camp and you have veteran depth if they don't. If the team doesn't look at him now when he'll be 24 before the season starts and think he's got real top 4 stuff then I don't think he's the sort of guy you twist yourself into knots for to try and make the cap work.