Corn Flake
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Frank E said:
If Burke's brash approach is what did him in with the new owners (it was what did him in in Vancouver when ownership changed too) then having him run the NHL would be just calamity.
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If Burke's brash approach is what did him in with the new owners (it was what did him in in Vancouver when ownership changed too) then having him run the NHL would be just calamity.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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If we trade Gardiner and Kadri for Luongo, I'd be so annoyed.
I don't know if I'd do Gardiner alone.
I don't know if I'd do Gardiner alone.
#1PilarFan
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Kadri sure. Gardiner, no chance.WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
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Justin said:
I know you're paraphrasing but that strikes me as the kind of thing that can't really be "and/or". If Burke was told that he didn't get Luongo he'd be fired it's a pretty clear example of meddling where it shouldn't be. If Burke was told that he'd be fired if he didn't make the playoffs, it really just confirms what a lot of people thought about his job status.
So I think it really has to be one or the other.
Zee
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Beowulf said:If this has anything to do with the Luongo deal I'll be pretty pissed.
If it does, well then I guess it's going to be fantastic to be stuck with an overrated, overpaid goalie :
Hey I want Luongo, but at the right price. No way I'd want to give up top prospects for him and his contract. He's worth a shot at a playoff spot for the next year or 2, but we shouldn't' mortgage the future for him. If this was indeed about Luongo and Burke holding to his guns about not giving up a guy like Gardiner, MLSE has really screwed up today.
Corn Flake
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So the suggestion coming out is that George Cope (Bell CEO) was not a fan of Burke's style and pushed hard enough to finally get him booted. Bell culturally is certainly a very conservative company who generally don't ruffle feathers but also have no tolerance for anyone or anything that doesn't toe the line. They also have no qualms about chopping anyone they don't want around, without mercy.
It's interesting that Burke has had this happen once before when ownership changed in Vancouver, was replaced by Nonis. Burke left a pretty well set up team for him to take over. Nonis then acquired a goalie who took the Canucks to the next level - ironically of course being Roberto Luongo - and Vancouver eventually rose to elite contender status.
Perhaps Burke's style is just too aggressive and creates too much controversy for him to last long enough to see his rebuild work through. In Anaheim he inherited a reasonably well built team he took over the top but only lasted about the same amount of time.
It's interesting that Burke has had this happen once before when ownership changed in Vancouver, was replaced by Nonis. Burke left a pretty well set up team for him to take over. Nonis then acquired a goalie who took the Canucks to the next level - ironically of course being Roberto Luongo - and Vancouver eventually rose to elite contender status.
Perhaps Burke's style is just too aggressive and creates too much controversy for him to last long enough to see his rebuild work through. In Anaheim he inherited a reasonably well built team he took over the top but only lasted about the same amount of time.
Corn Flake
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RedLeaf said:
I think it could cost one of Kadri or Gardiner but not both, probably a Bozak and probably one stinko contract like Komisarek's or Connolly.
I would of course rather not part with Gardiner, but I think I can live with it.
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Zee said:
I don't think we need time to tell anything. When it comes to the Leafs, more often than not, McCowan has been full of it. I put absolutely zero stock in what he says.
Corn Flake
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bustaheims said:
Yep. Just tune him out when he starts talking Maple Leafs.
Beowulf
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Zee said:Beowulf said:If this has anything to do with the Luongo deal I'll be pretty pissed.
If it does, well then I guess it's going to be fantastic to be stuck with an overrated, overpaid goalie :
Hey I want Luongo, but at the right price. No way I'd want to give up top prospects for him and his contract. He's worth a shot at a playoff spot for the next year or 2, but we shouldn't' mortgage the future for him. If this was indeed about Luongo and Burke holding to his guns about not giving up a guy like Gardiner, MLSE has really screwed up today.
I can also live with him being overpaid and overrated if we didn't give up much for him; he's still a decent #1 goalie. But the thing is I don't see a deal happening between Toronto/Vancouver unless we are giving up such prospects. I don't think the Leafs will get him for a steal.