LuncheonMeat
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L K said:CarltonTheBear said:
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That's probably the most comprehensive highlight package of Clarkson I have seen.
To Clarkson's credit, he has both hands on his stick in 3 of those 4 pics.
Clarkson for horton
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To Clarkson's credit, he has both hands on his stick in 3 of those 4 pics.
Nik the Trik said:
But... why? You brought up whether or not players have to keep rehabbing, I'm pretty sure Savard isn't out there lifting weights every day. Everyone knows that his career is done, he's just collecting paycheques.
Dreger just went thru how "phone convo's" went down with the deal and he
said Toronto kept asking CBJ "are you serious?"
I don't know about you but I would have said yes before CBJ finished the original
phone conversation as soon as I heard "David Clar - YES WE AGREE YES YES OMG YES"
said Toronto kept asking CBJ "are you serious?"
I don't know about you but I would have said yes before CBJ finished the original
phone conversation as soon as I heard "David Clar - YES WE AGREE YES YES OMG YES"
bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com linkl1
DECEMBER 7, 2013
Nathan Horton?s left shoulder was rebuilt in July. The socket, worn to a nub, was rebuilt with a chunk of bone from the shoulder blade. Skin was cut and muscles were spread. There was some sawing and drilling. Hardware was involved.
It was a major operation and it requires four to six months of recovery. Horton is 51/2 months into the process. It can be painful. It seems like it will never end. He might have another four weeks to go.
bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com linkl2
OCT 21, 2014
Horton has been troubled by a sore lower back for several seasons, sources said, but it became significantly worse during the offseason. Kekalainen said Horton was experienced extreme discomfort while jogging in Florida this summer.
?He?s in constant pain,? Krepelka said. ?He?s in constant discomfort.?
The Blue Jackets will be covered by insurance for most of Horton?s salary ? $6 million this season ? once he misses the club?s 21st game of the season, on Nov. 25. Future seasons would work the same.
Horton could be placed on the long-term injured reserve list if the Blue Jackets need space under the NHL salary cap...
bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com linkl3
NOVEMBER 13, 2014
Blue Jackets forward Nathan Horton is stuck in a living hell and facing a torturous decision.
Horton, who hasn?t played since April, is in near constant pain ? sometimes agony ? because of a degenerative back injury that has derailed his NHL career.
?I can?t stand up like a normal person; I can?t bend over,? Horton said in his first public comments about his condition. ?I can?t run. I can?t play with my kids. To get in and out of the car, I?m like a 75-year-old man ? so slow and stiff. I can?t sleep at night. I try to lay down and my back seizes up and I can?t move, so sleeping is out. I?m like a zombie in the daytime.?
But the alternative to dealing with such misery is just as awful. Horton could have surgery to relieve the pain, but the procedure ? likely a three- or four-level spinal fusion with a titanium rod ? would mean the end of his NHL career at only 29 years old.
?I don?t want to have surgery, because of what that means,? Horton said, his voice breaking behind a smile. ?I don?t want to live with this pain, but I don?t want to make that decision. It?s hard for me to say that, at 29 years old, I?m done. I mean, really? Done at 29??
...
Horton said he never had a history of back problems, nothing beyond what is considered normal in a sport where two-handed crosschecks and slamming into glass walls is routine. Before he signed a seven-year, $37.1million contract with the Blue Jackets in July 2013, Horton passed a routine physical with the exception of his injured shoulder.
The Boston Bruins, his former club, didn?t suspect anything, either. With full access to Horton?s medical history, the Bruins offered him a long-term deal that he rejected to sign with the Blue Jackets. But last fall, while he was rehabilitating his shoulder after surgery, Horton started noticing stiffness and discomfort in his back.
?It just hit me,? Horton said. ?There I was working on my shoulder, while my back started getting worse and worse.?
Horton thought he could play through it, that maybe his back would loosen up when he started to play regularly. But after returning in January, his back only got worse.
?I couldn?t get my socks on,? Horton said. ?I could barely tie my skates. But I?ve played through stuff my whole career. I kept going.?
By April, Horton?s back was hurting so bad that his skating stride changed to compensate. That led to a groin injury that required surgery and ended his season after only 36 games.
bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com linkl4
JANUARY 31, 2015
It?s way too early to say if Nathan Horton is on the road to a full recovery from his debilitating back condition, the Blue Jackets cautioned.
...
?There?s been some progress there. He is feeling a little better,? Davidson said. ?I don?t know what that means in the big picture, but he?s better now than he was earlier this season. His whole attitude was different ? better ? than the last time we saw him.?
..
Horton and his family moved to Florida in the fall, in part, Davidson said, to get away from Columbus and the constant reminders of the Blue Jackets? games he?s missing. He?s doing light exercises, Kekalainen said, and plans to return to Columbus this spring.
There's the history. Odds are he's done. Even if he made it back without surgery, he's likely one hit away from LTIR. If he has the surgery, as they note, he won't be able to have the flexibility or take a hit.
Leafs can do with Horton what the Flyers have been doing with Pronger and they free up major cap space with Clarkson's deal jettisoned.
I think the bigger risk might be on the Blue Jackets but it depends on the insurance and how Clarkson plays. Insurance was covering a good hunk of Horton's deal this season. I'm not sure how much it covers in the subsequent seasons and maybe that's the key here. If it's similar, Horton was only costing them a mil after a number of games had passed to start the season. Clarkson's going to cost them $5.3 for the life of his deal ... and probably only deliver his a $2 mil or so player (if that) - unless he bounces back - which he shows no sign of doing. EDIT: Clarkson was NEVER a $5.3 mil/yr player ... NEVER.
DECEMBER 7, 2013
Nathan Horton?s left shoulder was rebuilt in July. The socket, worn to a nub, was rebuilt with a chunk of bone from the shoulder blade. Skin was cut and muscles were spread. There was some sawing and drilling. Hardware was involved.
It was a major operation and it requires four to six months of recovery. Horton is 51/2 months into the process. It can be painful. It seems like it will never end. He might have another four weeks to go.
bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com linkl2
OCT 21, 2014
Horton has been troubled by a sore lower back for several seasons, sources said, but it became significantly worse during the offseason. Kekalainen said Horton was experienced extreme discomfort while jogging in Florida this summer.
?He?s in constant pain,? Krepelka said. ?He?s in constant discomfort.?
The Blue Jackets will be covered by insurance for most of Horton?s salary ? $6 million this season ? once he misses the club?s 21st game of the season, on Nov. 25. Future seasons would work the same.
Horton could be placed on the long-term injured reserve list if the Blue Jackets need space under the NHL salary cap...
bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com linkl3
NOVEMBER 13, 2014
Blue Jackets forward Nathan Horton is stuck in a living hell and facing a torturous decision.
Horton, who hasn?t played since April, is in near constant pain ? sometimes agony ? because of a degenerative back injury that has derailed his NHL career.
?I can?t stand up like a normal person; I can?t bend over,? Horton said in his first public comments about his condition. ?I can?t run. I can?t play with my kids. To get in and out of the car, I?m like a 75-year-old man ? so slow and stiff. I can?t sleep at night. I try to lay down and my back seizes up and I can?t move, so sleeping is out. I?m like a zombie in the daytime.?
But the alternative to dealing with such misery is just as awful. Horton could have surgery to relieve the pain, but the procedure ? likely a three- or four-level spinal fusion with a titanium rod ? would mean the end of his NHL career at only 29 years old.
?I don?t want to have surgery, because of what that means,? Horton said, his voice breaking behind a smile. ?I don?t want to live with this pain, but I don?t want to make that decision. It?s hard for me to say that, at 29 years old, I?m done. I mean, really? Done at 29??
...
Horton said he never had a history of back problems, nothing beyond what is considered normal in a sport where two-handed crosschecks and slamming into glass walls is routine. Before he signed a seven-year, $37.1million contract with the Blue Jackets in July 2013, Horton passed a routine physical with the exception of his injured shoulder.
The Boston Bruins, his former club, didn?t suspect anything, either. With full access to Horton?s medical history, the Bruins offered him a long-term deal that he rejected to sign with the Blue Jackets. But last fall, while he was rehabilitating his shoulder after surgery, Horton started noticing stiffness and discomfort in his back.
?It just hit me,? Horton said. ?There I was working on my shoulder, while my back started getting worse and worse.?
Horton thought he could play through it, that maybe his back would loosen up when he started to play regularly. But after returning in January, his back only got worse.
?I couldn?t get my socks on,? Horton said. ?I could barely tie my skates. But I?ve played through stuff my whole career. I kept going.?
By April, Horton?s back was hurting so bad that his skating stride changed to compensate. That led to a groin injury that required surgery and ended his season after only 36 games.
bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com linkl4
JANUARY 31, 2015
It?s way too early to say if Nathan Horton is on the road to a full recovery from his debilitating back condition, the Blue Jackets cautioned.
...
?There?s been some progress there. He is feeling a little better,? Davidson said. ?I don?t know what that means in the big picture, but he?s better now than he was earlier this season. His whole attitude was different ? better ? than the last time we saw him.?
..
Horton and his family moved to Florida in the fall, in part, Davidson said, to get away from Columbus and the constant reminders of the Blue Jackets? games he?s missing. He?s doing light exercises, Kekalainen said, and plans to return to Columbus this spring.
There's the history. Odds are he's done. Even if he made it back without surgery, he's likely one hit away from LTIR. If he has the surgery, as they note, he won't be able to have the flexibility or take a hit.
Leafs can do with Horton what the Flyers have been doing with Pronger and they free up major cap space with Clarkson's deal jettisoned.
I think the bigger risk might be on the Blue Jackets but it depends on the insurance and how Clarkson plays. Insurance was covering a good hunk of Horton's deal this season. I'm not sure how much it covers in the subsequent seasons and maybe that's the key here. If it's similar, Horton was only costing them a mil after a number of games had passed to start the season. Clarkson's going to cost them $5.3 for the life of his deal ... and probably only deliver his a $2 mil or so player (if that) - unless he bounces back - which he shows no sign of doing. EDIT: Clarkson was NEVER a $5.3 mil/yr player ... NEVER.
Kin
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CarltonTheBear said:
A sense of closure?
It's not a thing like a concussion where there's really not much you can do in terms of working out to get better. A bad back is something that can be rehabbed(I speak from experience albeit probably not a very similar experience to Horton). Maybe Horton feels some sort of responsibility to try and get back to the game and earn the money and if he realizes he can't he can still walk away a very wealthy man.
I'm not saying it's super likely mind you, just that I wouldn't entirely rule it out.
GhostofPotvin29
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Clarkson and Horton signed their contracts at the same time. Horton played 35 games in 2013-14 and hasn't played since. Clarkson has 8 more points since the 2 deals were signed.
GhostofPotvin29
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Bates said:
Yep, Bob McKenzie reported it: