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But the thing is, what kind of revenue does the CFL (or the NLL, for that matter) see? MLB makes lucrative amounts of money and doesn't have a salary cap; that's why players like Price can earn that kind of $. The NHL barely registers as a sport outside of Canada and their salaries reflect that.

I have more empathy for some of the NFL players. Player careers are much shorter than the aforementioned sports and even then, elite guys still have trouble making decent guaranteed money and can be cut at any time.
 
Joe S. said:
Frycer14 said:
Joe S. said:
hockeyfan1 said:
Since hockey players reach their peak in their later years, Marner would fit in well in that category.

It goes to show that the Marner camp has every confidence in negotiating for a favourable deal, as well as eyeing the  impending future RFA situation (re: Nylander situation).



This is completely untrue. Players do not peak in their later years.

Yes, players indeed do peak in their later years after their entry level contracts.

So you call 22 ?their later years??

In the context of the comment, that's how it was pretty clearly intended, at least to me.
 
5 hours. Hold me tight guys. Hold me tight.


P.s. I'll be at the Marlies game again today at 4pm
 
Frycer14 said:
Joe S. said:
Frycer14 said:
Joe S. said:
hockeyfan1 said:
Since hockey players reach their peak in their later years, Marner would fit in well in that category.

It goes to show that the Marner camp has every confidence in negotiating for a favourable deal, as well as eyeing the  impending future RFA situation (re: Nylander situation).



This is completely untrue. Players do not peak in their later years.

Yes, players indeed do peak in their later years after their entry level contracts.

So you call 22 ?their later years??

In the context of the comment, that's how it was pretty clearly intended, at least to me.

Ok. Not to me. I?ve never heard of anyone refer to a player aged 22-25 as their ?later years?.
 
I was kind of holding out hope this delay at the end was to maximize any Cap savings like McKenzie mentioned...irrational on my part or not.

Now I just feel that it isn?t going to end up with Willie in a Leaf sweater.

And more so it will be a no trade either so Willie plays in Europe.

 
I think Nylander signs today, but if he doesn't it may not be as big a loss as everyone is projecting. I think there is a ways to go before this all shakes down if he doesn't sign today.

If he does sign and the cap hit for this year is something over $9 million as reported, and then lower in later years, that would give the Leafs about $3 million left in cap space to try to add some experience on the blueline for a cup run.

If he doesn't sign, the Leafs have about $12 million in cap space left to make deals with at the trade deadline. They could potentially bring in d-man and a forward for a cup run this year, if making a deal for Nylander or other assets. If it was a deal for other assets. The Leafs could potentially trade Nylander later to replace those lost assets. So Nylander not signing today, doesn't mean they get nothing for a cup run this year - they get $12 million in cap space to do something.
 
Anyone missing from game-day practice?

Article said they played outdoors yesterday in Minnesota, and Kadri and Hainsey didn't play.
 
herman said:
Bender said:
This has probably been discussed already but why hasn't he signed an offer sheet yet? Do people think he hasn't even been offered the amount of money he wants from one?

Because he wants to be in Toronto, long term.
Yeah but the Leafs would likely match. They wouldn't walk away from 7.5mil Nylander.
 
Bender said:
herman said:
Bender said:
This has probably been discussed already but why hasn't he signed an offer sheet yet? Do people think he hasn't even been offered the amount of money he wants from one?

Because he wants to be in Toronto, long term.
Yeah but the Leafs would likely match. They wouldn't walk away from 7.5mil Nylander.

Depending on number of years that offer could get the Leaf's 4 first round picks, I take that any day for Nylander.
 
Bender said:
Yeah but the Leafs would likely match. They wouldn't walk away from 7.5mil Nylander.

Agreed. Unless the team signing the offer sheet is virtually guaranteed to be sending the Leafs a top 5 pick as part of the compensation package, it?s not worth it for the Leafs.

I have to believe something gets done today. It really doesn?t benefit either side to have Nylander miss the whole season.
 
Bates said:
Depending on number of years that offer could get the Leaf's 4 first round picks, I take that any day for Nylander.

No team is giving up 4 1st round picks for Nylander. A seven year offer sheet is not happening.
 
Frank E said:
Where are all the "insiders" today?
Given that there's been no credible info from either camp, the insiders are all sucking their thumbs waiting for LeafsPR to tweet either a deal or a Dubas press conference
 
bustaheims said:
Bates said:
Depending on number of years that offer could get the Leaf's 4 first round picks, I take that any day for Nylander.

No team is giving up 4 1st round picks for Nylander. A seven year offer sheet is not happening.
Don't the picks only coincide with salary? I believe it'd be 1st, 2nd, 3rd.
 
bustaheims said:
Bates said:
Depending on number of years that offer could get the Leaf's 4 first round picks, I take that any day for Nylander.

No team is giving up 4 1st round picks for Nylander. A seven year offer sheet is not happening.

I think 6 at that salary would do it?
 
Bender said:
Don't the picks only coincide with salary? I believe it'd be 1st, 2nd, 3rd.

Yes, but, compensation for any offer sheet 6 seasons or longer is based on the full value of the contract as if it were a 5 year deal. A 7 year contract @ $7.5M would return compensation as if it were a 5 year, $10.5m per year deal.
 
bustaheims said:
Bates said:
I think 6 at that salary would do it?

Would need to be  a 7 year deal at that salary level. Regardless, not happening. Not team is giving up 4 1st round picks for him.

6 X 7.5 is 45 million. Decide tgat by 5 years and It's 9 million per year. That's 4 firsts.
 
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