Franson, Santorelli to NSH for 1st round pick, Brendan Leipsic, Olli Jokinen

[CarltonTheBear]

Give him a 1-year extension while saying "we will absolutely play you at centre, if you're doing well then we can send you to a legit contender" and we might even get a decent pick back.  Meanwhile Strome/Eichel/?? is developing with the Marlies, gets his feet wet at end of 2015-16 season after Olli traded.

If we could get him on a Santorelli/Winnik type deal and the team trades Bozak before the season, then depending on what else is out there in August I wouldn't be completely opposed to it. But that's only if Bozak is moved, as things stand right now Jokinen would just be getting in the way of Holland's development.

 

[Crucialness Key]

Give him a 1-year extension while saying "we will absolutely play you at centre, if you're doing well then we can send you to a legit contender" and we might even get a decent pick back.  Meanwhile Strome/Eichel/?? is developing with the Marlies, gets his feet wet at end of 2015-16 season after Olli traded.

If we could get him on a Santorelli/Winnik type deal and the team trades Bozak before the season, then depending on what else is out there in August I wouldn't be completely opposed to it. But that's only if Bozak is moved, as things stand right now Jokinen would just be getting in the way of Holland's development.

I guess I've already written off Bozak as being gone (either now or off-season).

 

[Highlander]

I think Bozak is definetly on the way out, may go with Winneck in a package a la Franson/Santorelli deal.

 

[freer]

I think Bozak is definetly on the way out, may go with Winneck in a package a la Franson/Santorelli deal.

I would agree with you, by that time, he may be a 20 goal scorer or close, with a cap friendly salary. IMO I would not mind keeping Winnick ever though people seem to think he is a dime a dozen player.

 

[Kin]

Give him a 1-year extension while saying "we will absolutely play you at centre, if you're doing well then we can send you to a legit contender" and we might even get a decent pick back.  Meanwhile Strome/Eichel/?? is developing with the Marlies, gets his feet wet at end of 2015-16 season after Olli traded.

If we could get him on a Santorelli/Winnik type deal and the team trades Bozak before the season, then depending on what else is out there in August I wouldn't be completely opposed to it. But that's only if Bozak is moved, as things stand right now Jokinen would just be getting in the way of Holland's development.

I guess I've already written off Bozak as being gone (either now or off-season).

I think it'll be tougher than you think. To make his salary palatable I think a team would have to see him as a #2 centre and that seems like a bit of a sell at this point.

 

[Chris]

$4.2 million cap hit (thank you, Leaf management). Bozak is the one player I would like to see gone regardless of the return. Well, other than Clarkson but I've come to accept the fact he's not going anywhere.

 

[Crucialness Key]

Give him a 1-year extension while saying "we will absolutely play you at centre, if you're doing well then we can send you to a legit contender" and we might even get a decent pick back.  Meanwhile Strome/Eichel/?? is developing with the Marlies, gets his feet wet at end of 2015-16 season after Olli traded.

If we could get him on a Santorelli/Winnik type deal and the team trades Bozak before the season, then depending on what else is out there in August I wouldn't be completely opposed to it. But that's only if Bozak is moved, as things stand right now Jokinen would just be getting in the way of Holland's development.

I guess I've already written off Bozak as being gone (either now or off-season).

I think it'll be tougher than you think. To make his salary palatable I think a team would have to see him as a #2 centre and that seems like a bit of a sell at this point.

Bozak & Lupul to DET for Weiss & Pulkkinen  ;D

clearly i am getting feverish from weeks of trade speculation

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Give him a 1-year extension while saying "we will absolutely play you at centre, if you're doing well then we can send you to a legit contender" and we might even get a decent pick back.  Meanwhile Strome/Eichel/?? is developing with the Marlies, gets his feet wet at end of 2015-16 season after Olli traded.

If we could get him on a Santorelli/Winnik type deal and the team trades Bozak before the season, then depending on what else is out there in August I wouldn't be completely opposed to it. But that's only if Bozak is moved, as things stand right now Jokinen would just be getting in the way of Holland's development.

I guess I've already written off Bozak as being gone (either now or off-season).

I think it'll be tougher than you think. To make his salary palatable I think a team would have to see him as a #2 centre and that seems like a bit of a sell at this point.

Bozak & Lupul to DET for Weiss & Pulkkinen  ;D

clearly i am getting feverish from weeks of trade speculation

It will be done and ready for approval and Detroit will be one of Bozak's 12 teams he has to accept a trade to and will decline.  BOOK IT.

 

[Crucialness Key]

I guess I've already written off Bozak as being gone (either now or off-season).

I think it'll be tougher than you think. To make his salary palatable I think a team would have to see him as a #2 centre and that seems like a bit of a sell at this point.

Bozak & Lupul to DET for Weiss & Pulkkinen  ;D

clearly i am getting feverish from weeks of trade speculation

It will be done and ready for approval and Detroit will be one of Bozak's 12 teams he has to accept a trade to and will decline.  BOOK IT.

OK fine, Lupul/Bozak/Kessel for Pulkkinen/Weiss/Nyqvist

Get Eric Nystrom from NASH and have awesome line of Nystrom/Nylander/Nyqvist

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA  *overheats*

 

[cw]

I wasn't a big fan of Franson though he'd obviously improved. Didn't mind Santorelli. First round picks are hard to come by - particularly in a good draft year. Like many, I think it was a fair and reasonable deal.

Even better, I'm glad for the true rebuild. I've wanted since JFJ and before the Quinn years. I hope they stick to their guns on it.

I've talked about this years before:
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/shanahan-should-emulate-wings-in-rebuild-1.208987
A key reason the Wings are good is because they get great price performance out of their prospects ... because they develop them like good wine - let them "age" properly. When they finally come up, they're ready, can really play and don't cost $4 mil per season (because they had one good one).

As rotten as this season is, I think this rebuild is great, overdue news. In time, it won't be as hard to cheer for an organization doing things right. Doesn't guarantee a Cup but there's a better chance they'll get a number of good runs at it and be more consistently respectable - and you usually have to do that if you're ever going to have a parade.

 

[herman]

I wasn't a big fan of Franson though he'd obviously improved. Didn't mind Santorelli. First round picks are hard to come by - particularly in a good draft year. Like many, I think it was a fair and reasonable deal.

Even better, I'm glad for the true rebuild. I've wanted since JFJ and before the Quinn years. I hope they stick to their guns on it.

I've talked about this years before:
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/shanahan-should-emulate-wings-in-rebuild-1.208987
A key reason the Wings are good is because they get great price performance out of their prospects ... because they develop them like good wine - let them "age" properly. When they finally come up, they're ready, can really play and don't cost $4 mil per season (because they had one good one).

As rotten as this season is, I think this rebuild is great, overdue news. In time, it won't be as hard to cheer for an organization doing things right. Doesn't guarantee a Cup but there's a better chance they'll get a number of good runs at it and be more consistently respectable - and you usually have to do that if you're ever going to have a parade.

^ This was precisely what I hoped for when the offseason management moves were made. I hope they actually follow through now that ownership has committed to rebuild, rather than trying to buy our way into nearly-almost-winning-but-failing-dramatically. I don't mind Nonis being the triggerman on player moves, as he has a lot of buffer from making Clarksons mistakes: Dubas to identify gaps in the numbers and eke out value from market weakspots; Hunter to ID player template to target; Pridham to make sure the salary is sound; Nonis as the meat puppet with networking.

 

[Arn]

I think Bozak is definetly on the way out, may go with Winneck in a package a la Franson/Santorelli deal.

Yeah I based my earlier question re keeping Jokinen as a top line centre on assuming that Bozak would be gone.

 

[Joe S.]

You say keep jokinen as if he has any interest in signing with the leafs.

 

[Highlander]

Can we live with Kadri, Holland, Strome and Carrick/McKegg as our Centres. Perhaps a veteran presense like Ollie would be good to have

 

[pmrules]

Can we live with Kadri, Holland, Strome and Carrick/McKegg as our Centres. Perhaps a veteran presense like Ollie would be good to have

Gauthier?  Nylander? (or is he more of a winger?)

 

[Highlander]

Gauthier, needs a least two years with the Marlies and Nylander will be a winger (more than likely).

 

[freer]

Gauthier, needs a least two years with the Marlies and Nylander will be a winger (more than likely).

two years is fine. It is going to take that long to clear up the majority of this mess Nonis has made.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Gauthier, needs a least two years with the Marlies and Nylander will be a winger (more than likely).

two years is fine. It is going to take that long to clear up the majority of this mess Nonis has made.

And boy what a mess he made!

 

[Crucialness Key]

Gauthier, needs a least two years games with the Marlies and Nylander will be a winger multiple Conn Smythe trophy winner (more than likely).

;D ;D ;D

 

[rdowdall]

Looking at what the Hurricanes got for Sekerac, I think the Leafs may have undersold on Franson and Santorelli.