Franson, Santorelli to NSH for 1st round pick, Brendan Leipsic, Olli Jokinen

[LuncheonMeat]

The only thing that bothers me about this is if O.Jokinen actually dresses for a game will the Leafs actually allow him to wear his #13.  If so I'll be pissed.  Other than that I'm happy to get a pick and a pest

Nothing says love like pulling you from the womb of the best team in the league, straight into a tire fire.  And then stripping your number off your back.  I'm sure he'll be ready to give his all... to the TANK!! 

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

The only thing that bothers me about this is if O.Jokinen actually dresses for a game will the Leafs actually allow him to wear his #13.  If so I'll be pissed.  Other than that I'm happy to get a pick and a pest

Except that Jussi Jokinen is the pest, not Olli.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

The only thing that bothers me about this is if O.Jokinen actually dresses for a game will the Leafs actually allow him to wear his #13.  If so I'll be pissed.  Other than that I'm happy to get a pick and a pest

Except that Jussi Jokinen is the pest, not Olli.

The pest in this case is Brendan Leipsic.

 

[Mr. Leaf]

I've seen a couple of people say that Jokinen is unhappy to be coming to Toronto.  Is that an assumption, or did he actually say that?

 

[moon111]

From Lebrun:

What made this deal possible is that Nashville was willing to give Toronto the first-round pick that I don't think the Maple Leafs could have gotten had they dealt Franson and Santorelli in separate deals. They might have received a second-round pick plus a prospect, maybe, for Franson, and a second-round pick in a separate Santorelli deal, but highly doubtful a first-round pick would have been in the picture.

By combining the two rental players in one deal, Nonis was able to get his first-round pick.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nhl&id=34584&src=desktop

A '1st round' pick... which for most my life would of been a 2nd rounder if it weren't for expansion.  To call it a '1st' rounder really isn't doing it justice. 

 

[herman]

I've seen a couple of people say that Jokinen is unhappy to be coming to Toronto.  Is that an assumption, or did he actually say that?

This is where I heard it from.

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Let's just say Olli Jokinen was less than thrilled to hear he had been traded to the Leafs.

From the bench of a projected Cup finalist to a floundering franchise. Who wouldn't be a bit surly about that?

However, Nonis did remark in his presser:

"Olli hasn't played a lot. He's been in and out of the lineup there, so our plans with Olli are to get him playing, to get his game to the highest possible level, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are playoff teams that will be calling us (about him).

"He's a quality veteran who would provide a team that has a chance to win with some depth, so our immediate goal is to... get him playing."

 

[Mr. Leaf]

I've seen a couple of people say that Jokinen is unhappy to be coming to Toronto.  Is that an assumption, or did he actually say that?

This is where I heard it from.

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
Let's just say Olli Jokinen was less than thrilled to hear he had been traded to the Leafs.

From the bench of a projected Cup finalist to a floundering franchise. Who wouldn't be a bit surly about that?

However, Nonis did remark in his presser:

"Olli hasn't played a lot. He's been in and out of the lineup there, so our plans with Olli are to get him playing, to get his game to the highest possible level, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are playoff teams that will be calling us (about him).

"He's a quality veteran who would provide a team that has a chance to win with some depth, so our immediate goal is to... get him playing."

Thanks, I appreciate that.  I don't blame him either, going from the penthouse to the basement, so to speak!

 

[herman]

No problem, Mr. Leaf.

There was also this reaction from Jokinen's wife, which I found amusing:

Katerina Jokinen @MrsJoki
Never did like mustard yellow

 

[bustaheims]

A '1st round' pick... which for most my life would of been a 2nd rounder if it weren't for expansion.  To call it a '1st' rounder really isn't doing it justice.

There's been 30 picks in the 1st round for 15 years now. To not call it a 1st rounder or not accept it as such is to be stuck in the ancient past.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

A '1st round' pick... which for most my life would of been a 2nd rounder if it weren't for expansion.  To call it a '1st' rounder really isn't doing it justice.

There's been 30 picks in the 1st round for 15 years now. To not call it a 1st rounder or not accept it as such is to be stuck in the ancient past.

One of the oddest criticisms I've read.

 

[Madferret]

From Lebrun:

What made this deal possible is that Nashville was willing to give Toronto the first-round pick that I don't think the Maple Leafs could have gotten had they dealt Franson and Santorelli in separate deals. They might have received a second-round pick plus a prospect, maybe, for Franson, and a second-round pick in a separate Santorelli deal, but highly doubtful a first-round pick would have been in the picture.

By combining the two rental players in one deal, Nonis was able to get his first-round pick.

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nhl&id=34584&src=desktop

Lebrun knows.

Yep, he sure knows his opinion.

*furiously scours internet for an opinion that matches my own*

I quoted it from this thread.

 

[Guru Tugginmypuddah]

A '1st round' pick... which for most my life would of been a 2nd rounder if it weren't for expansion.  To call it a '1st' rounder really isn't doing it justice.

There's been 30 picks in the 1st round for 15 years now. To not call it a 1st rounder or not accept it as such is to be stuck in the ancient past.

Pffffft!  Anything outside of the first six picks is out of the 1st round.

Also, good on Nonis, I think he did quite well.

 

[skrackle]

Yeah, I like this just fine. I wish I was from the American South so I could say that with the appropriate inflection. But then, I probably wouldn't be a Leafs fan.

Two first rounders in a reportedly very deep draft. Possibly more trades for picks to come between now and draft day. And a true Leaf rebuild (I'm really hoping) finally under way?

It's about time. And it really is, because even if it takes 5-7 years or so and there are some missteps, that time is going to pass anyway. What if Burke had started a real rebuild like I assumed he was going to and was dismayed when he didn't?

It's the only way forward, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Madferret]

Good on Nonis or Shanahan for being adaptable enough to pair them both up for the 1st rounder they were looking for though - they did what they needed to do to get their asking price met.

As the stats people most of you are it probably doesn't need pointing out that the 26-30 pick in the first round yields a 50-50 chance of becoming an NHL player. More specifically I think it's like a 14% chance for the pick to become a top-six forward / top-four defencemen.

 

[Redleaf]

Good on Nonis or Shanahan for being adaptable enough to pair them both up for the 1st rounder they were looking for though - they did what they needed to do to get their asking price met.

As the stats people most of you are it probably doesn't need pointing out that the 26-30 pick in the first round yields a 50-50 chance of becoming an NHL player. More specifically I think it's like a 14% chance for the pick to become a top-six forward / top-four defencemen.

Ya but the leafs are really really good at the draft picking.

 

[Arn]

Any chance of our first and Nashville's first for, say, Edmonton's first?

 

[pmrules]

is phaneuf ready to play?  If not is Percy coming up to play?

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

The only thing that bothers me about this is if O.Jokinen actually dresses for a game will the Leafs actually allow him to wear his #13.  If so I'll be pissed.  Other than that I'm happy to get a pick and a pest

Except that Jussi Jokinen is the pest, not Olli.

The pest in this case is Brendan Leipsic.

Too many beers 

 

[hockeyfan1]

No problem, Mr. Leaf.
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There was also this reaction from Jokinen's wife, which I found amusing:

Katerina Jokinen @MrsJoki
Never did like mustard yellow

Hmm.  She obviously hasn't got the Toronto blues.

 

[Kin]

Any chance of our first and Nashville's first for, say, Edmonton's first?

So...two first round picks for a pick that might not end up higher than the pick they already have?

Nobody with a realistic shot at McDavid will trade their pick. Certainly not before the lottery.