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Game 18 - Yotes @ Leafs - 11-15 - 7PM SportsNet

Kessel's has obviously been awesome.. What I'm really noticing lately though is his passing, he's making some really good cross/up ice passes, just threading them through lanes!
 
Just as the game's getting interesting...wife hits record and I'm now watching Mike and Molly on PVR.

:-\ see ya later.
 
Bullfrog said:
Just as the game's getting interesting...wife hits record and I'm now watching Mike and Molly on PVR.

:-\ see ya later.
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and this is why I'm an awesome wife. I watch hockey, and I even tolerate Nascar.

:D
 
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Let's cut to the chase here.  Argue all you want to about whether this or that piece of crap is Wilson's fault.  The fact is that the team hasn't gotten it done, and he's been here more than 3 years.  At some point you gas the coach.  Burke should have done it last year but he's letting friendship get in the way of a decision that any other franchise would have made long ago.  End of story.
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Before or after you give him a decent goaltender? If we had Nicklas Backstrom or Pekka Rinne we wouldn't even be talking about canning Wilson.
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Most coaches in the league can craft a defensive scheme that accounts for less-that-elite goaltending.    He hasn't done it.  And, just in case you have forgotten, he never got it done in SJ with far better goaltending than he got here.

In this league if you don't win, you're gone.  It's well past time to try a different coach.

Let me put the onus on you: What's the downside to firing Wilson?
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So how many current coaches have won the cup? Off the top of my head: Mike Babcock, Randy Carlyle, Claude Julien, Joel Quenneville. Any more to add out of a 30 team league?

I'm not saying firing Wilson is a horrible idea. I don't really care for him as a coach. My point is that firing Wilson, imo, will not alleviate the Leafs problems. The goaltending issues will still be there until we get a proper No. 1 in place. The systems are irrelevant when your goalies are scored on on non-scoring chances.

Like I said: Quinn had Belfour and Cujo bail the team out. Burns had Potvin. Every good team has a good goaltender, not vice-versa, at least IMO, unless you want to play the trap like Tampa did.

The Leafs will still have just as many problems without Wilson as they did with Wilson, new systems or not. Maybe it'll kick start the PK% but I think better goaltending will take care of that. The PP needs work and I don't have an answer for that, but I don't know if Wilson is even headmanning that.
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Those are all reasonable opinions.  Maybe we just have a difference of emphasis.  I think a new coach would almost have to result in an improvement on D and in the special teams -- they have been so bad for so long.

And of course good goaltending makes any coach better.

But Wilson is a chronic underachiever.  There's no denying it.  With all his wins he's made it to the finals once, and that was umpteen years and 2 teams ago.

There really is no downside to firing him.  And the upside is potentially high.
 
Can I have my Millen mute button now? Seriously, how bad is he? "I didn't like the way grabovski went in the boards there" out to lunch. He needs 3-4 replays to call a play right.
 
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Bender said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Let's cut to the chase here.  Argue all you want to about whether this or that piece of crap is Wilson's fault.  The fact is that the team hasn't gotten it done, and he's been here more than 3 years.  At some point you gas the coach.  Burke should have done it last year but he's letting friendship get in the way of a decision that any other franchise would have made long ago.  End of story.
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Before or after you give him a decent goaltender? If we had Nicklas Backstrom or Pekka Rinne we wouldn't even be talking about canning Wilson.
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Most coaches in the league can craft a defensive scheme that accounts for less-that-elite goaltending.    He hasn't done it.  And, just in case you have forgotten, he never got it done in SJ with far better goaltending than he got here.

In this league if you don't win, you're gone.  It's well past time to try a different coach.

Let me put the onus on you: What's the downside to firing Wilson?
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So how many current coaches have won the cup? Off the top of my head: Mike Babcock, Randy Carlyle, Claude Julien, Joel Quenneville. Any more to add out of a 30 team league?

I'm not saying firing Wilson is a horrible idea. I don't really care for him as a coach. My point is that firing Wilson, imo, will not alleviate the Leafs problems. The goaltending issues will still be there until we get a proper No. 1 in place. The systems are irrelevant when your goalies are scored on on non-scoring chances.

Like I said: Quinn had Belfour and Cujo bail the team out. Burns had Potvin. Every good team has a good goaltender, not vice-versa, at least IMO, unless you want to play the trap like Tampa did.

The Leafs will still have just as many problems without Wilson as they did with Wilson, new systems or not. Maybe it'll kick start the PK% but I think better goaltending will take care of that. The PP needs work and I don't have an answer for that, but I don't know if Wilson is even headmanning that.
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No one is talking about winning the cup, getting into the post season or fighting for a top 8 spot would be a step in the right direction.
 
Wow! Phoenix is really good at hiding their interference, because the refs are definitely not seeing it for some reason. It's crystal clear on HD.
 
Well, we may not have to worry about the Leafs' 2nd line not scoring for a while - 2/3 of it have been injured tonight.
 
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