crazyperfectdevil
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if anyone needed any help disliking Vancouver before the game tomorrow: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/are-leafs-canucks-really-that-different/
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Strangelove
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crazyperfectdevil said:
What an awful, nasally delivery he has. Good for him.
Guru Tugginmypuddah
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That guy needs a punch in the dic|<.
That... was painful to watch.
#1PilarFan
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Well, he's certainly not subtle about trying to get a reaction. Also, yeah the Leafs are noted poachers of talent. Not like Vancouver, who has drafted and developed their entire NHL team as well as their front office and coaching staff.
Interestingly enough, Vancouver also invented hockey. The more you know.
Interestingly enough, Vancouver also invented hockey. The more you know.
crazyperfectdevil
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like obviously it's somewhat tongue in cheek ..but it still does a good job of being annoying
crazyperfectdevil
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Ashton out for two games: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=689547&navid=nhl:topheads
Stickytape
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AvroArrow said:crazyperfectdevil said:
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Oh man, oh my... Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I think this guy's bitter. I think a Leaf may have slept with his wife. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! What a pathetic dolt. Oh, brother. :
Holy, you weren't kidding. Bitter much? Fortunately for me, I don't pay much attention to people who call their favourite sports team "we".
And I can't really hate Vancouver; I lived there for a while when I was young, and cheered for them for lack of Leafs games, and I still have family there who are big hockey fans. They're also one of those woobie teams who look promising, then totally let you down, so cheering for them feels oddly familiar...
I do want the Leafs to totally stick it to them tonight, but I can't get too upset if they lose. Well, that's the theory anyway.
moon111
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The last time the Canucks did anything, I think they had about three scrubs on their team that weren't drafted or acquired by Brian Burke or Dave Nonis. Their GM was basking in his glory, when he did nothing. And it might of cost them the Stanley Cup. Even now I see them being good, but stagnant.
crazyperfectdevil
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i like referring to my favourite team as we
Stickytape
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crazyperfectdevil said:i like referring to my favourite team as we
Did somebody post something? I could have sworn there was a new post in this thread.. j/k ^__^
I do it too sometimes, but I try not to. I'm a Leaf fan, not a Leaf.
MetalRaven
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nutman said:crazyperfectdevil said:i like referring to my favourite team as we
Me and every hockey fan I know (not speaking of fans here) refere to our teams as we. Its been that way since I've been watching way back in the 60's.
And the way it should be. When I say "we won last night" it refers to the team I cheer for. People I say this to know what team im referring to because they have made an association with me and the team. When a discussion about hockey happens it usually becomes "your team" and "we". Now heres the thing, im not stupid enough to believe the person im speaking to actually owns the team or is a player on this team, nor do I think the person im speaking with is stupid enough to believe that after work I go don the Leafs Jersey and fly off to anaheim to play vs the ducks. Saying we is faster and more efficient then saying the teams name over and over again. Quite frankly in a natural discussion it sounds forced and needlessly repetitive.
This all started because somebody said "Why do you say we....YOU'RE not on the team"
Answer : "Because saying the teams name over and over again is ridiculous and I give the person im talking to credit for intelligence"
Unless of course they ask me that....then I say the team names every time...because they no longer get credit for it in my mind.
(No offense is meant to anyone here, you guys are very intelligent thats why I come here....but this...is one of my big pet peeves and I hope to squash it once and for all)
Kin
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MetalRaven said:
Well, I can't speak for everyone obviously but typically when I am engaged in a casual discussion about hockey I'm not overly concerned with being graded for speed or efficiency. Definitely not to the point where the two syllables of "The Leafs" is overly cumbersome compared to the one of "we".
MetalRaven said:
Which is why you wouldn't use it except when necessary. In sentences where you need to differentiate between two teams you would use "The Leafs" as in "Toronto played Anaheim last night and I think the Leafs played pretty well" but in sentences where you didn't you would use "they" as in "They started Bernier last night". There are collective pronouns that don't involve yourself that are just as fast.
All of my casual discussions about hockey interchange those two as needed and no one is confused as to who is being referred to or left staring at their watches as all of those needless syllables pile up. I don't have a super-strong opinion as to the use of "we" from a propriety sense(although it can sound pretty silly) but it's certainly not something that's mandated by the language.
Beowulf
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MetalRaven said:nutman said:crazyperfectdevil said:i like referring to my favourite team as we
Me and every hockey fan I know (not speaking of fans here) refere to our teams as we. Its been that way since I've been watching way back in the 60's.
And the way it should be. When I say "we won last night" it refers to the team I cheer for. People I say this to know what team im referring to because they have made an association with me and the team. When a discussion about hockey happens it usually becomes "your team" and "we". Now heres the thing, im not stupid enough to believe the person im speaking to actually owns the team or is a player on this team, nor do I think the person im speaking with is stupid enough to believe that after work I go don the Leafs Jersey and fly off to anaheim to play vs the ducks. Saying we is faster and more efficient then saying the teams name over and over again. Quite frankly in a natural discussion it sounds forced and needlessly repetitive.
This all started because somebody said "Why do you say we....YOU'RE not on the team"
Answer : "Because saying the teams name over and over again is ridiculous and I give the person im talking to credit for intelligence"
Unless of course they ask me that....then I say the team names every time...because they no longer get credit for it in my mind.
(No offense is meant to anyone here, you guys are very intelligent thats why I come here....but this...is one of my big pet peeves and I hope to squash it once and for all)
I appreciate your explanation but for me In that scenario I just say "they" instead of "we".
And it's not that I assume that everyone who says "we" is connecting themselves to the team and taking credit for their success - I give people more credit than that and I'm certainly not going to lecture anyone for using "we".
It's just a distinction that I want to make for myself.
GhostofPotvin29
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People really care about others saying "we"? Jeez.
Stickytape
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Beowulf said:MetalRaven said:nutman said:crazyperfectdevil said:i like referring to my favourite team as we
Me and every hockey fan I know (not speaking of fans here) refere to our teams as we. Its been that way since I've been watching way back in the 60's.
And the way it should be. When I say "we won last night" it refers to the team I cheer for. People I say this to know what team im referring to because they have made an association with me and the team. When a discussion about hockey happens it usually becomes "your team" and "we". Now heres the thing, im not stupid enough to believe the person im speaking to actually owns the team or is a player on this team, nor do I think the person im speaking with is stupid enough to believe that after work I go don the Leafs Jersey and fly off to anaheim to play vs the ducks. Saying we is faster and more efficient then saying the teams name over and over again. Quite frankly in a natural discussion it sounds forced and needlessly repetitive.
This all started because somebody said "Why do you say we....YOU'RE not on the team"
Answer : "Because saying the teams name over and over again is ridiculous and I give the person im talking to credit for intelligence"
Unless of course they ask me that....then I say the team names every time...because they no longer get credit for it in my mind.
(No offense is meant to anyone here, you guys are very intelligent thats why I come here....but this...is one of my big pet peeves and I hope to squash it once and for all)
I appreciate your explanation but for me In that scenario I just say "they" instead of "we".
And it's not that I assume that everyone who says "we" is connecting themselves to the team and taking credit for their success - I give people more credit than that and I'm certainly not going to lecture anyone for using "we".
It's just a distinction that I want to make for myself.
Kinda how I feel, too. I didn't mean to paint all people who call the team "we" with the same brush - like I said, I say it too, sometimes.
Often, when I say "we", I basically mean Leafs Nation. I come home from watching a game and my girlfriend asks "who won" and I'll often say either "the Leafs" or "we did" - by that I mean our side, rather than their side. It just doesn't make sense to say "they did" because both teams are "they" in that situation. I think that's how most people use it, too.
However, some people, like the guy in the linked video, really do try to personally own their chosen team's victories. And those people tend to say "we" and "us" in that way.
I guess what I should have said is that I don't take people who want to personally own their team's victories very seriously.
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