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Jonathan Drouin requests trade

So this kid thinks that not playing and getting suspended is going to somehow expedite a trade? Are you kidding me? This nonsense defies all logic.
 
sickbeast said:
So this kid thinks that not playing and getting suspended is going to somehow expedite a trade? Are you kidding me? This nonsense defies all logic.

Well, if you figure that the Lightning want to deal Drouin when his value is at its highest and that sitting around suspended and not playing probably hurts his value then, sure, it could expedite things. Considering everything else Tampa is dealing with right now you have to figure they don't want this on their plates as well.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Well, if you figure that the Lightning want to deal Drouin when his value is at its highest and that sitting around suspended and not playing probably hurts his value then, sure, it could expedite things. Considering everything else Tampa is dealing with right now you have to figure they don't want this on their plates as well.

Yeah. As much as this isn't the best move from an optics POV, it definitely puts a little more pressure on the Lightning to get a deal done. Not helpful for their return, but I doubt Walsh or Drouin care about that.
 
Yzerman addressed the media today. The one notable thing that came from it was that he denied telling Drouin's camp that a deal was close to completion.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Yzerman addressed the media today. The one notable thing that came from it was that he denied telling Drouin's camp that a deal was close to completion.

Yeah, that would be weird of him to say that to the Drouin camp until something was actually done.

I could see someone saying that they're working on it, but not that something was imminent.

I think it looks like the Drouin camp is just using the holdout as leverage to get a deal done sooner. 
 
Nik the Trik said:
sickbeast said:
So this kid thinks that not playing and getting suspended is going to somehow expedite a trade? Are you kidding me? This nonsense defies all logic.

Well, if you figure that the Lightning want to deal Drouin when his value is at its highest and that sitting around suspended and not playing probably hurts his value then, sure, it could expedite things. Considering everything else Tampa is dealing with right now you have to figure they don't want this on their plates as well.
You know what?  There are two or three of you guys on here that basically talk down everyone else and act like you know it all.  I actually have some choice words for you guys but I'm not going to say it because this is a public forum.  You guys are really ruining the forum here and it's why in large part I no longer even bother with this place.  It's really pathetic that you need to do this to stroke your own ego.  I know that personally I'm highly educated and quite knowledgeable so your crap doesn't really affect me.  It does ruin the forum here though.

I fully realize that this post isn't going to change anything but really you fully deserve to be called out like this.

I have a been a Leafs fan all my life and to be honest with you, you guys make me sick.  I came on here to chat with other Leafs fans but it's always a one way street with some of you.
 
sickbeast said:
Nik the Trik said:
sickbeast said:
So this kid thinks that not playing and getting suspended is going to somehow expedite a trade? Are you kidding me? This nonsense defies all logic.

Well, if you figure that the Lightning want to deal Drouin when his value is at its highest and that sitting around suspended and not playing probably hurts his value then, sure, it could expedite things. Considering everything else Tampa is dealing with right now you have to figure they don't want this on their plates as well.
You know what?  There are two or three of you guys on here that basically talk down everyone else and act like you know it all.  I actually have some choice words for you guys but I'm not going to say it because this is a public forum.  You guys are really ruining the forum here and it's why in large part I no longer even bother with this place.  It's really pathetic that you need to do this to stroke your own ego.  I know that personally I'm highly educated and quite knowledgeable so your crap doesn't really affect me.  It does ruin the forum here though.

I fully realize that this post isn't going to change anything but really you fully deserve to be called out like this.

I have a been a Leafs fan all my life and to be honest with you, you guys make me sick.  I came on here to chat with other Leafs fans but it's always a one way street with some of you.

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Patrick said:
sickbeast said:
Nik the Trik said:
sickbeast said:
So this kid thinks that not playing and getting suspended is going to somehow expedite a trade? Are you kidding me? This nonsense defies all logic.

Well, if you figure that the Lightning want to deal Drouin when his value is at its highest and that sitting around suspended and not playing probably hurts his value then, sure, it could expedite things. Considering everything else Tampa is dealing with right now you have to figure they don't want this on their plates as well.
You know what?  There are two or three of you guys on here that basically talk down everyone else and act like you know it all.  I actually have some choice words for you guys but I'm not going to say it because this is a public forum.  You guys are really ruining the forum here and it's why in large part I no longer even bother with this place.  It's really pathetic that you need to do this to stroke your own ego.  I know that personally I'm highly educated and quite knowledgeable so your crap doesn't really affect me.  It does ruin the forum here though.

I fully realize that this post isn't going to change anything but really you fully deserve to be called out like this.

I have a been a Leafs fan all my life and to be honest with you, you guys make me sick.  I came on here to chat with other Leafs fans but it's always a one way street with some of you.

b3e4b481b4c720140c27dc4f54f2a60905f46c0351ba0b56197668c561dc4f61.jpg
I'm quite happy actually.  I am quite successful in my life and I'm just very happy that I don't have endless hours of my life to waste trolling people on a message board.  You seem to fit that mould actually.
 
sickbeast said:
Patrick said:
sickbeast said:
Nik the Trik said:
sickbeast said:
So this kid thinks that not playing and getting suspended is going to somehow expedite a trade? Are you kidding me? This nonsense defies all logic.

Well, if you figure that the Lightning want to deal Drouin when his value is at its highest and that sitting around suspended and not playing probably hurts his value then, sure, it could expedite things. Considering everything else Tampa is dealing with right now you have to figure they don't want this on their plates as well.
You know what?  There are two or three of you guys on here that basically talk down everyone else and act like you know it all.  I actually have some choice words for you guys but I'm not going to say it because this is a public forum.  You guys are really ruining the forum here and it's why in large part I no longer even bother with this place.  It's really pathetic that you need to do this to stroke your own ego.  I know that personally I'm highly educated and quite knowledgeable so your crap doesn't really affect me.  It does ruin the forum here though.

I fully realize that this post isn't going to change anything but really you fully deserve to be called out like this.

I have a been a Leafs fan all my life and to be honest with you, you guys make me sick.  I came on here to chat with other Leafs fans but it's always a one way street with some of you.

b3e4b481b4c720140c27dc4f54f2a60905f46c0351ba0b56197668c561dc4f61.jpg
I'm quite happy actually.  I am quite successful in my life and I'm just very happy that I don't have endless hours of my life to waste trolling people on a message board.  You seem to fit that mould actually.

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sickbeast said:
Nik the Trik said:
sickbeast said:
So this kid thinks that not playing and getting suspended is going to somehow expedite a trade? Are you kidding me? This nonsense defies all logic.

Well, if you figure that the Lightning want to deal Drouin when his value is at its highest and that sitting around suspended and not playing probably hurts his value then, sure, it could expedite things. Considering everything else Tampa is dealing with right now you have to figure they don't want this on their plates as well.
You know what?  There are two or three of you guys on here that basically talk down everyone else and act like you know it all.  I actually have some choice words for you guys but I'm not going to say it because this is a public forum.  You guys are really ruining the forum here and it's why in large part I no longer even bother with this place.  It's really pathetic that you need to do this to stroke your own ego.  I know that personally I'm highly educated and quite knowledgeable so your crap doesn't really affect me.  It does ruin the forum here though.

I fully realize that this post isn't going to change anything but really you fully deserve to be called out like this.

I have a been a Leafs fan all my life and to be honest with you, you guys make me sick.  I came on here to chat with other Leafs fans but it's always a one way street with some of you.

Huh?  His response to you seemed pretty fair and he didn't use any personal attacks or anything towards you.  I'm not sure what there is to be upset about other than it was a different opinion.  It didn't come off as personal or aggressive.
 
Potvin29 said:
sickbeast said:
Nik the Trik said:
sickbeast said:
So this kid thinks that not playing and getting suspended is going to somehow expedite a trade? Are you kidding me? This nonsense defies all logic.

Well, if you figure that the Lightning want to deal Drouin when his value is at its highest and that sitting around suspended and not playing probably hurts his value then, sure, it could expedite things. Considering everything else Tampa is dealing with right now you have to figure they don't want this on their plates as well.
You know what?  There are two or three of you guys on here that basically talk down everyone else and act like you know it all.  I actually have some choice words for you guys but I'm not going to say it because this is a public forum.  You guys are really ruining the forum here and it's why in large part I no longer even bother with this place.  It's really pathetic that you need to do this to stroke your own ego.  I know that personally I'm highly educated and quite knowledgeable so your crap doesn't really affect me.  It does ruin the forum here though.

I fully realize that this post isn't going to change anything but really you fully deserve to be called out like this.

I have a been a Leafs fan all my life and to be honest with you, you guys make me sick.  I came on here to chat with other Leafs fans but it's always a one way street with some of you.

Huh?  His response to you seemed pretty fair and he didn't use any personal attacks or anything towards you.  I'm not sure what there is to be upset about other than it was a different opinion.  It didn't come off as personal or aggressive.

Things can get a little snippety around here, but that post was perfectly cool in my book.
 
Frank E said:
Potvin29 said:
sickbeast said:
Nik the Trik said:
sickbeast said:
So this kid thinks that not playing and getting suspended is going to somehow expedite a trade? Are you kidding me? This nonsense defies all logic.

Well, if you figure that the Lightning want to deal Drouin when his value is at its highest and that sitting around suspended and not playing probably hurts his value then, sure, it could expedite things. Considering everything else Tampa is dealing with right now you have to figure they don't want this on their plates as well.
You know what?  There are two or three of you guys on here that basically talk down everyone else and act like you know it all.  I actually have some choice words for you guys but I'm not going to say it because this is a public forum.  You guys are really ruining the forum here and it's why in large part I no longer even bother with this place.  It's really pathetic that you need to do this to stroke your own ego.  I know that personally I'm highly educated and quite knowledgeable so your crap doesn't really affect me.  It does ruin the forum here though.

I fully realize that this post isn't going to change anything but really you fully deserve to be called out like this.

I have a been a Leafs fan all my life and to be honest with you, you guys make me sick.  I came on here to chat with other Leafs fans but it's always a one way street with some of you.

Huh?  His response to you seemed pretty fair and he didn't use any personal attacks or anything towards you.  I'm not sure what there is to be upset about other than it was a different opinion.  It didn't come off as personal or aggressive.

Things can get a little snippety around here, but that post was perfectly cool in my book.

That was my initial reaction too.
 
sickbeast said:
This goes back many years. That post was pretty tame but the arrogance was still there.
yep. most of the in-gang are pretty immune to their own antics by now. its a sheethole  compared to the penaltybox days.

anybody heard from cw lately? i really miss reading his posts. its been like six months since his last one
 
JohnK's Revenge said:
sickbeast said:
This goes back many years. That post was pretty tame but the arrogance was still there.
yep. most of the in-gang are pretty immune to their own antics by now. its a sheethole  compared to the penaltybox days.

anybody heard from cw lately? i really miss reading his posts. its been like six months since his last one
I'm pretty happy with the way things are here. If I wasn't I'd go somewhere else.
 
Bender said:
JohnK's Revenge said:
sickbeast said:
This goes back many years. That post was pretty tame but the arrogance was still there.
yep. most of the in-gang are pretty immune to their own antics by now. its a sheethole  compared to the penaltybox days.

anybody heard from cw lately? i really miss reading his posts. its been like six months since his last one
I'm pretty happy with the way things are here. If I wasn't I'd go somewhere else.
I use to have a pretty big beef with Nik as well. But I'm not sure if it's older age or whatever but he's certainly shown a lot more restraint over the last year (possibly longer). He can still string his words together in a condescending manner when he's attacked but all's fair in that situation.

I have to agree that this particular post was the incorrect time to accuse him and bring this up. There have been much better times to do it. This is pretty far from it.

All that said. If and when the time actually comes and he or whoever else attacks you in a manner that inappropriate. The right people will back you up. Myself included.

Relax... have a beer or whatever and get back to talking about the leafs.
 
a typical conversation at tmlfans nowadays:

random poster: cant believe grabner missed that breakaway. he should have finished, seems like he always misses those. never liked him! [vent essentially over]

regular one: well in the last ten minutes over on so & so's web site i compiled grabners career breakaway stats where he has a conversion rate of of 0.025% which is not "always misses". in fact i compiled stat on every nhl players breakaway conversions and grabner has a top ten conversion rate compared with the rest. so basically you're talking out of you ass!

regular two: i agree number one the stats show the truth.  good job.

regular three:  number one, that was a bit rude but the guy was clearly wrong, try to embarass him in a nicer way in future we're trying to be civilized here..

regular four: well i agree with number one.. great job on the research. you're awesome.

random poster: you guys suck!

regulars: well if you post something you better be prepared to defend it. no need to be rude. if you dont like it here you can leave.

and all the interesting people drift away leaving the same posters, posting this same conversation over and over with ever so slightly changing context.
 
I'm all for differing opinions, but if my roommate for example goes on about how Kadri sucks (which he does game in and game out) with nothing other than "because he sucks" then I'm going to show him a couple of counterarguments. If he disagrees that's fine too but its rooted in emotion and not on actual play.

I don't see how that is any different here or why that's a bad thing. If someone leaves because the other side gives a more nuanced analysis of what's going on with the team that's their own prerogative and I really don't mind if they do or don't. It doesn't change anything for me.

There are plenty of older members I miss too but there are still quite a lot of older posters that are still here and this is still one of the better boards for real discussion on the team.

Regardless though we have gotten way off topic. Drouin for Antro, Poni and a 1st?

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