Kessel signs long term extension (8 yrs, 64M, 8M AAV)

[maplesyrup]

Well, I don't know about the rest of you but I'm really looking forward to Kessel retiring as a Leaf and his mumbling, disinterested speech when he's inducted into the HHOF.

It'll be interesting to see where he ends up on the Leafs' all-time scoring lists.  Sundin's 420 goals and 987 points may be just out of Kessel's reach, but ending up at least second is completely possible.

I think he's got an outside shot at the goals and I'm going to say no freakin' way with the points.

 

[Deebo]

8/8 is elite money and term.

I don't think that's true or, at least, I don't think that's going to be true going forward. We saw Getzlaf/Perry both sign richer deals and while they're both good players, neither guy would probably make anyone's list of the top 10 players in the league(They were #15 and #24 on TSN's list of top 50 in the league and I think that's generous to both).

You're too tied up in comparing this deal, signed under the new CBA to older ones. I think the reality going forward is that guys who are of Kessel's ability/talent are going to get these sorts of deals when they're pending UFA's. The next time someone who's truly elite and in a position to sign a deal like this I think they'll get considerably more.

Yeah, we'll see what Stamkos gets in a couple years.

 

[bustaheims]

It'll be interesting to see where he ends up on the Leafs' all-time scoring lists.  Sundin's 420 goals and 987 points may be just out of Kessel's reach, but ending up at least second is completely possible.

I think Sundin's 420 goals is in reach, but points might be more of a stretch. He already has 119 goals in Blue & White. If he sticks around after this new contract, getting the other 301+ at his scoring rate is certainly plausible, if not likely.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

It'll be interesting to see where he ends up on the Leafs' all-time scoring lists.  Sundin's 420 goals and 987 points may be just out of Kessel's reach, but ending up at least second is completely possible.

He's 301 goals and 734 points shy of Sundin's records. He would have to average 33 goals and 82 points over the next 9 seasons to get there. I think the goal totals are certainly in reach, but not the overall points. And of course he'll only be 34 years old at the end of this deal so it's possible he has even more time to get there.

 

[bustaheims]

I think he's got an outside shot at the goals and I'm going to say no freakin' way with the points.

I wouldn't go that far. He's at 253 points as a Leaf. That means he'd have to put up 734 to get there. So, if he can stay near a point a game for this contract and stick around for a couple seasons after that, he could definitely get there. It'll be more difficult for him, yes, but, it's certainly not impossible or even implausible, really.

 

[Zee]

8/8 is elite money and term.

I don't think that's true or, at least, I don't think that's going to be true going forward. We saw Getzlaf/Perry both sign richer deals and while they're both good players, neither guy would probably make anyone's list of the top 10 players in the league(They were #15 and #24 on TSN's list of top 50 in the league and I think that's generous to both).

You're too tied up in comparing this deal, signed under the new CBA to older ones. I think the reality going forward is that guys who are of Kessel's ability/talent are going to get these sorts of deals when they're pending UFA's. The next time someone who's truly elite and in a position to sign a deal like this I think they'll get considerably more.

Yeah, we'll see what Stamkos gets in a couple years.

Stamkos will be a UFA when he's 26, or basically the same age as Kessel today.  Given that the cap will go up, I can see him getting over $10M in cap hit.

 

[Frank E]

I think he's got an outside shot at the goals and I'm going to say no freakin' way with the points.

I wouldn't go that far. He's at 253 points as a Leaf. That means he'd have to put up 734 to get there. So, if he can stay near a point a game for this contract and stick around for a couple seasons after that, he could definitely get there. It'll be more difficult for him, yes, but, it's certainly not impossible or even implausible, really.

Given that he's entering his prime years, I'd say it is entirely possible given his track record thus far.

 

[Derk]

Nice. The contract was pretty much bang on with the speculation. Here's hoping he can keep up his scoring pace for at least 8 more seasons.

 

[Redleaf]

Kessel is still young and his game looks to be improving every season, but let's not forget the dry spells he goes through every year. When that happens, and it will, the discussion will no doubt turn to the big extension he signed today.

It's easy to forget, but there have been many heated arguments in the GDTs discussing his lack of finish around the net, the times when it seemed like he was going through the motions and watching him take the same, easily stoppable shots game after game.

It wasn't too long ago that some people here were even saying that he's a pretty useless player when he's not putting up points. I don't think that's valid anymore, as his defensive game has gotten better, but let's just hope we fill more of those GDTs discussing his scoring streaks and less about his goalless streaks.

All and all, I like the fact that Phil should be a Leaf for the duration of his career, and really hope he becomes an invaluable piece of the puzzle.

The new seasons begins tonight folks, and I'd really love to see this contract extension start to pay dividends right off the hop!!!

 

[ZBBM]

The new seasons begins tonight folks, and I'd really love to see this contract extension start to pay dividends right off the hop!!!

Me too, for the record.  I'll be cheering every goal he scores for as long as he's a Leaf.

 

[Erndog]

Kessel has been my favourite Leaf the moment we acquired him.

Quite excited by this.

 

[Leafaholic99]

Well, I don't know about the rest of you but I'm really looking forward to Kessel retiring as a Leaf and his mumbling, disinterested speech when he's inducted into the HHOF.

Just as long as it's accompanied by a picture of him holding the Stanley Cup over his head, in victory, at least once.

"Phil, do have fond memories of that Stanley Cup win with the Leafs?"

"Yeah, that was great"

"My most memorable moment was when Bozie and I got new king sized bunk beds"

 

[L K]

Well, I don't know about the rest of you but I'm really looking forward to Kessel retiring as a Leaf and his mumbling, disinterested speech when he's inducted into the HHOF.

It'll be interesting to see where he ends up on the Leafs' all-time scoring lists.  Sundin's 420 goals and 987 points may be just out of Kessel's reach, but ending up at least second is completely possible.

I think he's got an outside shot at the goals and I'm going to say no freakin' way with the points.

975 will be tough for him.  The goals would be a possibility but even then he would have to score like mad and with great consistency.

Kessel has 117 goals 134 assists for 251 points as a Leaf.    He did that in 3.5 years of hockey.  He'll turn 35 in the last year of this contract.  So let's just say that he essentially matches his 3.5 years of production over the next 9 years.  That would be 301 goals, 345 assists for 646 points.  Combined with his 251 points he would have 418 goals, 479 assists for 897 points.  90 points short of Sundin.

 

[bustaheims]

Kessel has 117 119 goals 134 assists for 251 253 points as a Leaf.    He did that in 3.5 years of hockey.  He'll turn 35 34 in the last year of this contract.  So let's just say that he essentially matches his 3.5 years of production over the next 9 years.  That would be 301 306 goals, 345 assists for 646 651 points.  Combined with his 251 253 points he would have 418 425 goals, 479 assists for 897 904 points.  90 83 points short of Sundin.

Just correcting a couple small errors.

 

[Frank E]

Kessel has 117 119 goals 134 assists for 251 253 points as a Leaf.    He did that in 3.5 years of hockey.  He'll turn 35 34 in the last year of this contract.  So let's just say that he essentially matches his 3.5 years of production over the next 9 years.  That would be 301 306 goals, 345 assists for 646 651 points.  Combined with his 251 253 points he would have 418 425 goals, 479 assists for 897 904 points.  90 83 points short of Sundin.

Just correcting a couple small errors.

LK is only a physician...they don't have to be so precise. 

 

[moon111]

I think about this time in Brett Hull's career, he was a one-time 40 goal scorer.

 

[bustaheims]

LK is only a physician...they don't have to be so precise.

Yeah. I'm a writer. I need to be detail orientated.

 

[Captain Canuck]

I'll be able to get quite a bit more mileage out of my Kessel jersey with this news! Always good to get the negotiations done before the season starts and let the player concentrate on just putting the puck in the net.

 

[moon111]

$64 million?  That's quite the reward for slashing John Scott a couple of times.

 

[L K]

Kessel has 117 119 goals 134 assists for 251 253 points as a Leaf.    He did that in 3.5 years of hockey.  He'll turn 35 34 in the last year of this contract.  So let's just say that he essentially matches his 3.5 years of production over the next 9 years.  That would be 301 306 goals, 345 assists for 646 651 points.  Combined with his 251 253 points he would have 418 425 goals, 479 assists for 897 904 points.  90 83 points short of Sundin.

Just correcting a couple small errors.

LK is only a physician...they don't have to be so precise.

2 mg of Ativan....200 mg of Ativan.  What's the worst than can happen.  Sorry for the bad math, and thanks for the correction.  Kessel would have one hell of a career if he hits 900 career points as a Leaf regardless.