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Komisarek on waivers

So, does this mean Leafs don't have to waste a compliance buyout on Komisarek?  If he's on the Marlies the salary doesn't affect the Leafs cap right?
 
Zee said:
So, does this mean Leafs don't have to waste a compliance buyout on Komisarek?  If he's on the Marlies the salary doesn't affect the Leafs cap right?

That's old CBA. New CBA will count him against the cap.
 
Nik said:
CarltonTheBear said:
As long as he isn't really teaching him how to play defence, Komisarek could be a very positive influence for Rielly when he joins the team.

Even if that's true, outside of playing the same position is there anything Komisarek offers in that regard that's unique? There are other good guys on the team.

I don't think anyone else on that team has 500+ NHL games (except Connolly). He's a 10-year NHL veteran who by all accounts is a great teammate and leader. It might not mean much, but I think it's a pretty easy call for who Rielly will be sitting beside in the lockerroom.
 
I disagree with the comment above that Komisarek is aweful at playing hockey.  I'm with a select few others on here that believe he mertited another chance to play, and likely wasn't as bad as he's being projected.  I do think, however, that pencils have erasers and once a something seems to become a mistake it needs to be corrected.  Komisarek could no longer play in Toronto, though I by no means think he can't play or that his days are done.

Good luck, Mike.  It's really too bad things didn't work our inTO but I do think you'll find success in the game again.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I don't think anyone else on that team has 500+ NHL games (except Connolly). He's a 10-year NHL veteran who by all accounts is a great teammate and leader. It might not mean much, but I think it's a pretty easy call for who Rielly will be sitting beside in the lockerroom.

I guess. To me, though, that's sort of like having a strong opinion on how good Dion Phaneuf is as a leader.
 
Nik said:
Zee said:
So, does this mean Leafs don't have to waste a compliance buyout on Komisarek?  If he's on the Marlies the salary doesn't affect the Leafs cap right?

That's old CBA. New CBA will count him against the cap.

I already hate this CBA then.
 
Champ Kind said:
I disagree with the comment above that Komisarek is aweful at playing hockey.  I'm with a select few others on here that believe he mertited another chance to play, and likely wasn't as bad as he's being projected.  I do think, however, that pencils have erasers and once a something seems to become a mistake it needs to be corrected.  Komisarek could no longer play in Toronto, though I by no means think he can't play or that his days are done.

But, say, if he passes through waivers unclaimed you'd have to figure that's a pretty strong statement, wouldn't you?
 
Waiving his NMC is as self-serving as it is "noble". The only way he gets back to the NHL is by playing somewhere.
 
PG said:
Waiving his NMC is as self-serving as it is "noble". The only way he gets back to the NHL is by playing somewhere.

Thank you.

I was about ready to vomit with the "noble" talk.
 
Zee said:
So, does this mean Leafs don't have to waste a compliance buyout on Komisarek?  If he's on the Marlies the salary doesn't affect the Leafs cap right?

Under the new CBA, anything over the league minimum + $375K counts against the cap. So, Komisarek would still represent a $3.6M cap hit.
 
Nik said:
Champ Kind said:
I disagree with the comment above that Komisarek is aweful at playing hockey.  I'm with a select few others on here that believe he mertited another chance to play, and likely wasn't as bad as he's being projected.  I do think, however, that pencils have erasers and once a something seems to become a mistake it needs to be corrected.  Komisarek could no longer play in Toronto, though I by no means think he can't play or that his days are done.

But, say, if he passes through waivers unclaimed you'd have to figure that's a pretty strong statement, wouldn't you?

Well, wouldn't you agree that it could be as much, if not more so, a reflection of his contract than his skill or ability?  I mean, Scott Gomez found work pretty quickly once the burden of his contract was relieved and his regression, I would wager, was greater than Komisarek's.
 
Champ Kind said:
Well, wouldn't you agree that it could be as much, if not more so, a reflection of his contract than his skill or ability?  I mean, Scott Gomez found work pretty quickly once the burden of his contract was relieved and his regression, I would wager, was greater than Komisarek's.

I don't think you could have found a lot of people who would have said that Gomez didn't merit a demotion though. Taking a flyer on a guy is one thing, saying he merited being in the line-up, to me, is something fairly different.
 
Nik said:
Champ Kind said:
Well, wouldn't you agree that it could be as much, if not more so, a reflection of his contract than his skill or ability?  I mean, Scott Gomez found work pretty quickly once the burden of his contract was relieved and his regression, I would wager, was greater than Komisarek's.

I don't think you could have found a lot of people who would have said that Gomez didn't merit a demotion though. Taking a flyer on a guy is one thing, saying he merited being in the line-up, to me, is something fairly different.

Well, I think you would have found a lot of people who would have said Gomez isn't aweful, but he is aweful a $7.25M or whatever he was making.  I mean, it's all relative, isn't it?  I think you will find Komisarek eventually return to a 6'th defenseman role and do well at it, likely on a better team.  But to do that, his salary will have to be adjusted to better reflect where he fits on the team.
 
Champ Kind said:
Well, I think you would have found a lot of people who would have said Gomez isn't aweful, but he is aweful a $7.25M or whatever he was making.  I mean, it's all relative, isn't it?

I suppose. But that's why a pejorative like awful isn't particularly helpful. I mean, I wouldn't call anyone in the AHL an awful hockey player. They're pros, probably playing in the second best league in the world. What binds them is not being good enough for the NHL which, right now at least, is a group that Komisarek comfortably fits into.

I mean, price is largely irrelevant to the Leafs with regards to Komisarek. They have to pay him anyway. If he were capable of contributing in that bottom pairing role I think we'd have seen more evidence of it over the last four seasons.
 
Zee said:
Good on Komisarek.  He's not sulking, not speaking out in the press and has accepted a demotion (if nobody claims him).  He just wants to play.

He hasn't delivered on the ice the way many hoped. But off the ice, given what he's been through during his time here, he's been a class act with little grumbling to the media. I'll always respect him for that. There are a lot of pro athletes who would put their team second in the situation he's been in.

I won't miss his play on the ice but I do hope he can catch on somewhere.

I don't think he's ever fully recovered from his shoulder injury.
 

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