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Komisarek on waivers

When a player sinks this low, and he does have some talent to have made that much money, I think he is worth a shot. this is now in his eyes, a low point, and in turn a make or break time in his career. could be a good grab for a team in need of a vet d. and as for next yrs money well it would be delt with then.
 
nutman said:
and as for next yrs money well it would be delt with then.

The only way to deal with "next year's money" is to A) pay it to him or B) find another team who will. That's sort of the crux of the point.
 
Nik said:
nutman said:
and as for next yrs money well it would be delt with then.

The only way to deal with next years money is to A) pay it to him or B) find another team who will. That's sort of the crux of the point.

Its a risk some team may take in hope that he can help them. If he shows he has somthing left, next years money wont matter. and like I said I think he will have something to prove.
 
nutman said:
Its a risk some team may take in hope that he can help them. If he shows he has somthing left, next years money wont matter. and like I said I think he will have something to prove.

With the cap dropping $6M, next year's money matters big time. No matter how many times you deny it, it's a massive determining factor here. No team is going to take that risk in the hope that he shows he has something left - especially when they know the Leafs are almost certainly going to buy him out in the summer and they'll have the opportunity to get him significantly cheaper as a free agent.
 
nutman said:
Its a risk some team may take in hope that he can help them. If he shows he has somthing left, next years money wont matter. and like I said I think he will have something to prove.

But to take him on they would have to make the commitment to that 5 million dollars today. They couldn't wait to see how he responded before agreeing to it. Right now, claiming Komisarek means they're on the hook for 5 million dollars. That's an insane amount of money for a guy who has played himself out of a lineup that needs defensive help.

And if Mike Komisarek were the kind of person who would be inspired by hitting low points I'd assume he'd have maybe found that at some point in the last four years as he slid down from the top pairing guy he was to the Mayor of Pressboxtown he is today.
 
Nik said:
leafplasma said:
Very noble of him and if he agreed to waive his NMC he would have suit up with the Marlies in order to collect his paycheque.

Really? Noble?

Yes noble, he didn't sign a NTC, he signed a NMC contract in good faith.  He obviously did not want to sign a contract that would ever risk having him spend time on an AHL team.  When you play 519 games as an NHL defenseman and you were a highly touted 1st round number 7 pick coming into this league it is a slap in the face to play in the AHL.  By waiving his NMC he is giving the Leafs a chance to shed us of his salary and not have to even use up a compliance buy out on him for next season.  That likely won't happen but I think in the jaded eyes of Komisarek he thinks it likely may happen.  Do you seriously think playing 20 games for the Marlies is going to have any impact on whether he signs with an NHL team next season.  So yes, it is very noble of him and Frank E I will get you a bucket.
 
leafplasma said:
By waiving his NMC he is giving the Leafs a chance to shed us of his salary and not have to even use up a compliance buy out on him for next season.

Um, nope. It ain't. Even if you meant cap hit instead of salary it's still not the case.
 
leafplasma said:
Nik said:
leafplasma said:
Very noble of him and if he agreed to waive his NMC he would have suit up with the Marlies in order to collect his paycheque.

Really? Noble?

Yes noble, he didn't sign a NTC, he signed a NMC contract in good faith.  He obviously did not want to sign a contract that would ever risk having him spend time on an AHL team.  When you play 519 games as an NHL defenseman and you were a highly touted 1st round number 7 pick coming into this league it is a slap in the face to play in the AHL.  By waiving his NMC he is giving the Leafs a chance to shed us of his salary and not have to even use up a compliance buy out on him for next season.  That likely won't happen but I think in the jaded eyes of Komisarek he thinks it likely may happen.  Do you seriously think playing 20 games for the Marlies is going to have any impact on whether he signs with an NHL team next season.  So yes, it is very noble of him and PG I will get you a bucket.

They will still have to use a compliance buyout.

Everything over 900k now counts against the NHL cap if you are assigned to the AHL.
 
Nik said:
leafplasma said:
By waiving his NMC he is giving the Leafs a chance to shed us of his salary and not have to even use up a compliance buy out on him for next season.

Um, nope. It ain't. Even if you meant cap hit instead of salary it's still not the case.

Yes if somebody claims him it does, that is what I was getting at.
 
leafplasma said:
Nik said:
leafplasma said:
By waiving his NMC he is giving the Leafs a chance to shed us of his salary and not have to even use up a compliance buy out on him for next season.

Um, nope. It ain't. Even if you meant cap hit instead of salary it's still not the case.

Yes if somebody claims him it does, that is what I was getting at.

No one will, why would they when he will be a UFA after he is bought out?
 
leafplasma said:
Yes if somebody claims him it does, that is what I was getting at.

Right, but as you pointed out he doesn't have a NTC. The Leafs have always had an opportunity to trade him to another team and, let's be honest, they absolutely would have if they could but nobody wanted him.

Realistically, this decision was about being paid millions of dollars to play in the AHL vs. being paid millions of dollars to sit in the press box.
 
Nik said:
leafplasma said:
Yes if somebody claims him it does, that is what I was getting at.

Right, but as you pointed out he doesn't have a NTC. The Leafs have always had an opportunity to trade him to another team and, let's be honest, they absolutely would have if they could but nobody wanted him.

Realistically, this decision was about being paid millions of dollars to play in the AHL vs. being paid millions of dollars to sit in the press box.

Yeah, and super-noble of him to make that decision that very much impacts the team in a positive fashion.

I think I mentioned it a little while ago, but I'm surprised it took this long for him to ask to play for the Marlies.
 
What happens if Komisarek buys into Eakins philosophy down there and does a complete 360 and plays better than current Leafs? Do we bring him back up or still trade him?  He was playing better this year until he was hurt.
 
Jay-Mar said:
What happens if Komisarek buys into Eakins philosophy down there and does a complete 360 and plays better than current Leafs? Do we bring him back up or still trade him?  He was playing better this year until he was hurt.

I think you absolutely bring him up and play him. 

The guy really does just need to play, and play a lot to see what he can do.
 
I wish that the Leafs wouldn't buy him out with just one season left on his contract if they could fit it in under the cap. It seems to me like a bit of a waste if you could use that buyout on other guys with longer contracts that may end up being long term albatrosses. Compliance buyouts can happen this upcoming offseason AND the next one, if I recall correctly.
 
Derk said:
I wish that the Leafs wouldn't buy him out with just one season left on his contract if they could fit it in under the cap. It seems to me like a bit of a waste if you could use that buyout on other guys with longer contracts that may end up being long term albatrosses. Compliance buyouts can happen this upcoming offseason AND the next one, if I recall correctly.

Yes.

2 maximum compliance buyouts over the next 2 off seasons.
 

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