Leafs @ Devils - Mar. 23rd, 7:00pm - LeafsTV, TSN 1050

[Strangelove]

Two stupid plays at the end of that game.

1) Phaneuf had a chance to carry the puck into the zone with about 25 seconds left, he threw the puck into the corner instead

2) Franson with 5 seconds left throws the puck back toward the Leafs zone (where nobody was) rather than at least attempting a low percentage fluke play

3) Phaneuf on in the last minute

4) Franson on in the last minute

5) Kessel line plays for final three minutes of game and is dead tired in the last minute and a half but doesn't change.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

good luck coming back against the devils my leafs.

reimer, thanks for spotting the other team a 2+ goal lead again. soft goals.

Yeah, because that was all Reimer, not the guys allowing 2 on 1's and breakaways like they are going out of style.

Last time Bernier started?  2-0 after the 1st.

Montreal: had a two goal lead before the 10 min mark of 1st period. Lost 4-3
Tampa: had a goal one minute in from puck drop. Lost 5-3
Detroit: had a goal by 12 minute mark of first. Lost 3-2
Washington: had three goals before the 10 min mark of the 1st period. 4-2

today: spotted a nice three goal lead to the Devils.

Yes so?  This isn't a new thing.  Leafs have only had a lead after the 1st period 17 times in 73 games, and have been down after the 1st 31 times in 73 games.

So it's just a coincidence our longest loosing streak is with Reimer starting in net at the most crucial time?

Yes.  Why is that so difficult to grasp?  Bernier lost 6 of 7 games in December.  Why is it so hard to just accept that some things are coincidence and not some fantastic narrative?

 

[Redleaf]

good luck coming back against the devils my leafs.

reimer, thanks for spotting the other team a 2+ goal lead again. soft goals.

Yeah, because that was all Reimer, not the guys allowing 2 on 1's and breakaways like they are going out of style.

Last time Bernier started?  2-0 after the 1st.

Montreal: had a two goal lead before the 10 min mark of 1st period. Lost 4-3
Tampa: had a goal one minute in from puck drop. Lost 5-3
Detroit: had a goal by 12 minute mark of first. Lost 3-2
Washington: had three goals before the 10 min mark of the 1st period. 4-2

today: spotted a nice three goal lead to the Devils.

Yes so?  This isn't a new thing.  Leafs have only had a lead after the 1st period 17 times in 73 games, and have been down after the 1st 31 times in 73 games.

So it's just a coincidence our longest loosing streak is with Reimer starting in net at the most crucial time?

Yeah. It's no coincidence.

No.  You are right.  The Leafs are awesome and this is all on Reimer.

Thanks. I knew you'd come around sooner or later.

 

[Spider]

Well too little too late again.  So frustrating to be a Leafs fan right now.  This season is going to be the Maple Leafs Meltdown (part 2).  I guess it was always Reimer's fault we choked in game seven against the Bruins.  This last 5 games proves it.

See you all next year.  Hopefully with any luck; Clarkson, Reimer, Franson and Carlyle are all gone this summer.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

5) Kessel line plays for final three minutes of game and is dead tired in the last minute and a half but doesn't change.

Do you mean you expected them to go for a line change on the fly?

 

[mc]

Sh*t. 5 straight regulation losses. At least take it to overtime or shootout.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I guess it was always Reimer's fault we choked in game seven against the Bruins.  This last 5 games proves it.

Is this for real?

 

[crazyperfectdevil]

again..i don't know why we had to wait for that third goal to pull reimer

Because you don't blame the goalie for the poor line change that lead to a poorly played 2 on 1 or for poor coverage that lead to an Elias breakaway.

and yet..just like magic..no goals let in after reimer leaves the game....even if you don't put this on reimer . ..which okay..i get you ..fine ..defend him until the end of days...but sometimes you change the goalie to change the dynamic of the game ..and it did ...the leafs ended up getting back within one...but Carlyle didn't choose to do that ...he decided to change things after it was too late..and for what?  what was the benefit of letting reimer get scored on again?  so that he'll be chased out of town by rabid leaf fans?  because it sure as hell wasn't to win the game.

 

[Redleaf]

good luck coming back against the devils my leafs.

reimer, thanks for spotting the other team a 2+ goal lead again. soft goals.

Yeah, because that was all Reimer, not the guys allowing 2 on 1's and breakaways like they are going out of style.

Last time Bernier started?  2-0 after the 1st.

Montreal: had a two goal lead before the 10 min mark of 1st period. Lost 4-3
Tampa: had a goal one minute in from puck drop. Lost 5-3
Detroit: had a goal by 12 minute mark of first. Lost 3-2
Washington: had three goals before the 10 min mark of the 1st period. 4-2

today: spotted a nice three goal lead to the Devils.

Yes so?  This isn't a new thing.  Leafs have only had a lead after the 1st period 17 times in 73 games, and have been down after the 1st 31 times in 73 games.

So it's just a coincidence our longest loosing streak is with Reimer starting in net at the most crucial time?

Yes.  Why is that so difficult to grasp?  Bernier lost 6 of 7 games in December.  Why is it so hard to just accept that some things are coincidence and not some fantastic narrative?

Well, as they say, the proofs in the pudding. Let's see what happens when Bernier returns. If he returns.

 

[BermudaBudsFan]

The fact that the Leafs are terrible defensively and that Reimer hasn't been good since Bernier has been out are not mutually exclusive.  Both are true.  There is little doubt, though, that if Bernier had been in goal we would not be on a 5 game losing streak.  Some points would have been gained.

 

[Strangelove]

5) Kessel line plays for final three minutes of game and is dead tired in the last minute and a half but doesn't change.

Do you mean you expected them to go for a line change on the fly?

In the right circumstances? Sure. They have no business staying on for 90 seconds of two minute powerplays, and for three minute sequences at the end of the game. It doesn't do the team any good to have them out there unable to skate..

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

5) Kessel line plays for final three minutes of game and is dead tired in the last minute and a half but doesn't change.

Do you mean you expected them to go for a line change on the fly?

In the right circumstances? Sure. They have no business staying on for 90 seconds of two minute powerplays, and for three minute sequences at the end of the game. It doesn't do the team any good to have them out there unable to skate..

Carlyle put them back out after the goal and timeout.

EDIT: Plus after that they were in the Devils zone for all but the last ~20 seconds or so.

 

[mc]

good luck coming back against the devils my leafs.

reimer, thanks for spotting the other team a 2+ goal lead again. soft goals.

Yeah, because that was all Reimer, not the guys allowing 2 on 1's and breakaways like they are going out of style.

Last time Bernier started?  2-0 after the 1st.

Montreal: had a two goal lead before the 10 min mark of 1st period. Lost 4-3
Tampa: had a goal one minute in from puck drop. Lost 5-3
Detroit: had a goal by 12 minute mark of first. Lost 3-2
Washington: had three goals before the 10 min mark of the 1st period. 4-2

today: spotted a nice three goal lead to the Devils.

Yes so?  This isn't a new thing.  Leafs have only had a lead after the 1st period 17 times in 73 games, and have been down after the 1st 31 times in 73 games.

So it's just a coincidence our longest loosing streak is with Reimer starting in net at the most crucial time?

Yes.  Why is that so difficult to grasp?  Bernier lost 6 of 7 games in December.  Why is it so hard to just accept that some things are coincidence and not some fantastic narrative?

Not difficult at all. We got points in those games. And Reimer sucks

 

[bustaheims]

and yet..just like magic..no goals let in after reimer leaves the game....even if you don't put this on reimer . ..which okay..i get you ..fine ..defend him until the end of days...but sometimes you change the goalie to change the dynamic of the game ..and it did ...the leafs ended up getting back within one...but Carlyle didn't choose to do that ...he decided to change things after it was too late..and for what?  what was the benefit of letting reimer get scored on again?  so that he'll be chased out of town by rabid leaf fans?  because it sure as hell wasn't to win the game.

Or it could just be that the Devils went into the typical New Jersey defensive shell after they scored the 3rd goal. I mean, it's not like the Leafs were suddenly getting a lot of chances. The Devils still controlled the puck, they just stopped pressing the issue, because that's how the Devils have played for 20 years now.

 

[L K]

good luck coming back against the devils my leafs.

reimer, thanks for spotting the other team a 2+ goal lead again. soft goals.

Yeah, because that was all Reimer, not the guys allowing 2 on 1's and breakaways like they are going out of style.

Last time Bernier started?  2-0 after the 1st.

Montreal: had a two goal lead before the 10 min mark of 1st period. Lost 4-3
Tampa: had a goal one minute in from puck drop. Lost 5-3
Detroit: had a goal by 12 minute mark of first. Lost 3-2
Washington: had three goals before the 10 min mark of the 1st period. 4-2

today: spotted a nice three goal lead to the Devils.

Yes so?  This isn't a new thing.  Leafs have only had a lead after the 1st period 17 times in 73 games, and have been down after the 1st 31 times in 73 games.

So it's just a coincidence our longest loosing streak is with Reimer starting in net at the most crucial time?

Yes.  Why is that so difficult to grasp?  Bernier lost 6 of 7 games in December.  Why is it so hard to just accept that some things are coincidence and not some fantastic narrative?

Well, as they say, the proofs in the pudding. Let's see what happens when Bernier returns. If he returns.

The problem is that this wouldn't prove that Bernier would have done any better in these games because it isn't a study of Reimer vs. Bernier in a controlled environment.  It's a completely new scenario.  Bernier could have played tonight and given up 12 goals, or he could have posted a shutout.

 

[Redleaf]

I haven't been one to knock Carlyle on every decision he makes, but Reimer should have been pulled after goal #1. We may have gotten a pt or two tonight.

 

[mc]

that 5 on 3 really hurt us. we cleared the puck down the ice while on the 5-3. jeez.

 

[Strangelove]

5) Kessel line plays for final three minutes of game and is dead tired in the last minute and a half but doesn't change.

Do you mean you expected them to go for a line change on the fly?

In the right circumstances? Sure. They have no business staying on for 90 seconds of two minute powerplays, and for three minute sequences at the end of the game. It doesn't do the team any good to have them out there unable to skate..

Carlyle put them back out after the goal and timeout.

I know, and rather than stay out for 40 seconds, they were out there the entire time, accomplishing nothing for the last 45 seconds or so. Anyway, it's not just that last minute. I think their shifts have generally been too long during this entire losing streak, particularly on the powerplay.

 

[mc]

and the wings tie it up.

 

[Stronger Than All]

Detroit tied it of course