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Leafs @ Wings - Mar. 18th, 7:30pm - SN, SN 590

Strangelove said:
Bender said:
Well that sucked. More proof that unless the top line scores a bunch we are going nowhere.

It's also about time the defense has woken up and has started contributing offensively. What the hell happened to the rest of the forwards? Unbelievable.

No it's more proof that when Clarkson plays on the second line, that line doesn't score. If you compare their production with and without him it's pretty staggering.

But sure, make Kulemin center the third line and bench Holland, who was having a very solid game.

Oh yeah, it's not just the players, it's the use of those players. McClement coming out on the draw in the dying minutes of the third was just bat poop insane.
 
bustaheims said:
And it's not the defence that needs to be blown up. It's really just a couple of them that need to be upgraded to more mobile guys. The defensive strategies, however . . .

Replace Franson with a legit top-4 defensive guy and I think that goes a long way to shoring up the blueline. And I'm sure the team will look very closely at doing that this summer. Then like you said it's the strategies that need to be looked it.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I agree.  They'll make it in, though.  I hope they get smoked by BOS or whoever in the first round.  The whole defense needs to be blown up.

They'll probably make it, but, if they don't beat Tampa tomorrow or Montreal on Saturday, they'll be doing it the hard way.

And it's not the defence that needs to be blown up. It's really just a couple of them that need to be upgraded to more mobile guys. The defensive strategies, however . . .

Well, I've never been thrilled with Carlyle so obviously there's that.  But honestly, if somebody made a good offer on Phaneuf would you not do it?  I'd trade any one of them except 44.
 
Potvin29 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Why wouldn't you want Bozak taking that faceoff? He could have won it to his right for a Phaneuf one-timer.

Anytime you can get McClement and his 33% FO's on the night out there when you need a goal with 30 seconds left, you've gotta do it.

Anytime you can ignore Jay's overall ability to win faceoffs, well, you've just got to do it.

Systems!!!!1!
 
Tigger said:
Potvin29 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Why wouldn't you want Bozak taking that faceoff? He could have won it to his right for a Phaneuf one-timer.

Anytime you can get McClement and his 33% FO's on the night out there when you need a goal with 30 seconds left, you've gotta do it.

Anytime you can ignore Jay's overall ability to win faceoffs, well, you've just got to do it.

Systems!!!!1!

He did win the first one he took, did he not?
 
Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris  1m
Carlyle on Reimer: "I though he was OK. Just OK."

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Tigger said:
Potvin29 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Why wouldn't you want Bozak taking that faceoff? He could have won it to his right for a Phaneuf one-timer.

Anytime you can get McClement and his 33% FO's on the night out there when you need a goal with 30 seconds left, you've gotta do it.

Anytime you can ignore Jay's overall ability to win faceoffs, well, you've just got to do it.

Systems!!!!1!

What does that matter if he couldn't win many tonight and is terrible offensively?
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Well, I've never been thrilled with Carlyle so obviously there's that.  But honestly, if somebody made a good offer on Phaneuf would you not do it?  I'd trade any one of them except 44.

It would really depend on how good an offer. I'd really have to feel like it's a clear win for the Leafs in terms of the return to make that trade. He's had a rough couple weeks, but, otherwise, he's been excellent this season. I wouldn't move Gardiner or Gunnarsson either. You'd basically be looking to replace them with other guys who are essentially the same player. Gleason, Franson and Ranger . . . they can all go. They're all seriously lacking in mobility and that gets taken advantage of all too often.
 
Pretty sure this team was just scorching for the better part of a month. Can't win 'em all.

It's funny how quickly some people turn on Kessel and other players though, and are now actively rooting for the team to fail. The playoffs were fun last year, man. If they make it again, you should probably just enjoy the ride.

It's a very young team learning how to be a great team, and certainly there are a few missing pieces, particularly on defence, but no, let's fire the coach and blow it up.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
He did win the first one he took, did he not?

Even if his faceoff numbers were higher tonight it would still be an insane move. He's virtually useless offensively. Is that really worth putting him out there when you already have a good faceoff guy in Bozak? He may as well have skated off the second he won it.
 
mc said:
Well we know who's not starting tomorrow. Drew MacIntyre hope you are ready buddy!

Man, I didn't even think of that. Reimer's definitely sitting tomorrow night.

Stamkos vs. Drew MacIntyre.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris  1m
Carlyle on Reimer: "I though he was OK. Just OK."

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Not that he can be particularly blamed for any of the goals, but I'd say they were stoppable.

Overall, though, you can't expect your goalie to do much better than that given the quality of chances allowed against.
 
Tigger said:
Anytime you can ignore Jay's overall ability to win faceoffs, well, you've just got to do it.

Systems!!!!1!

Anytime you need a goal, you can just ignore McClement's complete lack of offensive ability.

And, the issue in this case is not systems. It's decision making and bench management. Why not Kadri? He's been much better on the draw recently, was 53% tonight and has high end offensive skills.
 
Potvin29 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris  2m
James Reimer: "He said I was just OK? I thought I was good."

"#^@! Randy" is what he wanted to say.

Carlyle basically: "He didn't bail the team out so whatever"

He was only good enough to keep the team in the game late into the 3rd. He wasn't good enough to steal it for them. But, that Jay McClement. He had an excellent game, right Randy? Just like Franson and Gleason?
 

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