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[Frank E]

It'd be interesting if we found a way to peddle our way up and draft Yakupov. *sigh

If we get to 4th or 5th (rather achievable) we could get lucky and win the lottery.

That's pretty much the only way the Leafs get the 1st overall pick. The team most likely to get it (Columbus) needs a Yakupov type player just as much, if not more than, the Leafs do.

Anybody else a little torn last night watching the last few minutes of the game?

 

[bustaheims]

Yeah, if Columbus or Montreal get the first round pick there's no question they'll keep it and pick Yakupov. Still, like I said before, I'd be more than happy with one of the other two big forwards in the draft. And I think it's pretty close to a lock that one of them will be there if we pick 4th.

Most likely, yeah. Edmonton almost certainly takes one of the high ceiling defencemen with their pick. They might be the only team in the top 5 would might trade down from 1st overall, but, even then, I don't think they'd be willing to drop much further than 3rd.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Yeah, if Columbus or Montreal get the first round pick there's no question they'll keep it and pick Yakupov. Still, like I said before, I'd be more than happy with one of the other two big forwards in the draft. And I think it's pretty close to a lock that one of them will be there if we pick 4th.

Most likely, yeah. Edmonton almost certainly takes one of the high ceiling defencemen with their pick. They might be the only team in the top 5 would might trade down from 1st overall, but, even then, I don't think they'd be willing to drop much further than 3rd.

From what I've read, Murphy going 2nd or 3rd overall really wouldn't be that much of a stretch. If things stay the way they are right now I think Edmonton would be better off staying put and selecting him there. An extra 2nd round pick or so really wouldn't be worth potentially losing him to another team. Grigorenko is practically a lock to go to Montreal if he's available with the Roy connection, which would leave us with Galchenyuk.

 

[Derk]

It'd be interesting if we found a way to peddle our way up and draft Yakupov. *sigh

If we get to 4th or 5th (rather achievable) we could get lucky and win the lottery.

That's pretty much the only way the Leafs get the 1st overall pick. The team most likely to get it (Columbus) needs a Yakupov type player just as much, if not more than, the Leafs do.

Anybody else a little torn last night watching the last few minutes of the game?

Yes.

 

[Derk]

I had wondered what could have happened if Burke had decided to trade some guys for firsts.

Anyone else think Columbus would have looked at a package for Nash including 3 or 4 firsts from this year's draft?

Yeah, probably not. But it was interesting to think about for 10 minutes at the trade deadline.

 

[Redleaf]

If, by some miraculous stroke of luck the Leafs win the lottery and move to 1st or 2nd pick, my bet is that Burke offers it up to Columbus in some sort of package for Nash. If Columbus gets 2 of the top 3 picks, along with, say Schenn, it sets them up pretty good for a rebuild.

 

[Bender]

I had wondered what could have happened if Burke had decided to trade some guys for firsts.

Anyone else think Columbus would have looked at a package for Nash including 3 or 4 firsts from this year's draft?

Yeah, probably not. But it was interesting to think about for 10 minutes at the trade deadline.

Nash at that price and contract is entirely overrated. I'd be hard pressed to do more than 2 firsts and a prospect for Nash, and based on his production this year I'd actually be a bit miffed.

 

[Peter D.]

If, by some miraculous stroke of luck the Leafs win the lottery and move to 1st or 2nd pick, my bet is that Burke offers it up to Columbus in some sort of package for Nash. If Columbus gets 2 of the top 3 picks, along with, say Schenn, it sets them up pretty good for a rebuild.

I really hope this isn't the case.  The Leafs have rebuilt the Bruins quite nicely already.  The last thing we'd need is to rebuild another team without even rebuilding ours. 

Seeing two of our top two picks donning the uniforms of other franchises would be sickening (one is already bad enough).

 

[CarltonTheBear]

If, by some miraculous stroke of luck the Leafs win the lottery and move to 1st or 2nd pick, my bet is that Burke offers it up to Columbus in some sort of package for Nash. If Columbus gets 2 of the top 3 picks, along with, say Schenn, it sets them up pretty good for a rebuild.

I really hope this isn't the case.  The Leafs have rebuilt the Bruins quite nicely already.  The last thing we'd need is to rebuild another team without even rebuilding ours. 

Seeing two of our top two picks donning the uniforms of other franchises would be sickening (one is already bad enough).

Yeah, I'm big on the Nash trade but even I wouldn't move our 1st rounder for him here.

 

[Bender]

If, by some miraculous stroke of luck the Leafs win the lottery and move to 1st or 2nd pick, my bet is that Burke offers it up to Columbus in some sort of package for Nash. If Columbus gets 2 of the top 3 picks, along with, say Schenn, it sets them up pretty good for a rebuild.

I really hope this isn't the case.  The Leafs have rebuilt the Bruins quite nicely already.  The last thing we'd need is to rebuild another team without even rebuilding ours. 

Seeing two of our top two picks donning the uniforms of other franchises would be sickening (one is already bad enough).

It's kinda funny how many favours we've given the Bruins over the years.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

If, by some miraculous stroke of luck the Leafs win the lottery and move to 1st or 2nd pick, my bet is that Burke offers it up to Columbus in some sort of package for Nash. If Columbus gets 2 of the top 3 picks, along with, say Schenn, it sets them up pretty good for a rebuild.

I really hope this isn't the case.  The Leafs have rebuilt the Bruins quite nicely already.  The last thing we'd need is to rebuild another team without even rebuilding ours. 

Seeing two of our top two picks donning the uniforms of other franchises would be sickening (one is already bad enough).

It's kinda funny how many favours we've given the Bruins over the years.

Particularly all those free points we've given them.

 

[pnjunction]

Particularly all those free points we've given them.

It's pretty funny that if we had even split the games with them they'd only be 4 pts ahead of us.  You can't split 5 games evenly but let's say we had 5pts each instead of Boston having all 10 we'd be at 72 and 76 pts.  We'd be fighting for 8th and Boston would be just below Ottawa in the division title race.  Instead we dumped 5 steaming piles in the bed and here we are...

 

[princedpw]

It'd be interesting if we found a way to peddle our way up and draft Yakupov. *sigh

If we get to 4th or 5th (rather achievable) we could get lucky and win the lottery.

That's pretty much the only way the Leafs get the 1st overall pick. The team most likely to get it (Columbus) needs a Yakupov type player just as much, if not more than, the Leafs do.

Well, there's talk that they could go for Griegorenko (being a centre) but also talk of them steering clear of Russians in general (Zherdev, Filatov being busts).

I feel a need to point out that the fact there have been russian players that have not been as good as hoped for isn't a reason to not pick a russian.  As there have obviously been russians who have panned out (Ovechkin, Malkin) and Candians who haven't (Daigle, etc.)

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I feel a need to point out that the fact there have been russian players that have not been as good as hoped for isn't a reason to not pick a russian.  As there have obviously been russians who have panned out (Ovechkin, Malkin) and Candians who haven't (Daigle, etc.)

Yeah I mean Columbus can just look back into their own draft history and find more Canadians who have busted than Russians.

 

[Bender]

I feel a need to point out that the fact there have been russian players that have not been as good as hoped for isn't a reason to not pick a russian.  As there have obviously been russians who have panned out (Ovechkin, Malkin) and Candians who haven't (Daigle, etc.)

Yeah I mean Columbus can just look back into their own draft history and find more Canadians who have busted than Russians.

Right,  but it's just a thought that Bob McKenzie posted on his draft analysis. You never know, stranger things have happened.

 

[bustaheims]

If, by some miraculous stroke of luck the Leafs win the lottery and move to 1st or 2nd pick, my bet is that Burke offers it up to Columbus in some sort of package for Nash. If Columbus gets 2 of the top 3 picks, along with, say Schenn, it sets them up pretty good for a rebuild.

So much no. Really, all this would be is another poorly thought out quick fix type move that only puts the team further behind. If the Leafs get one of the top 2 picks, they hold on to it like grim death and maybe they finally draft their own franchise player for the first time since, if we're really being honest, Darryl Sittler.

 

[Tigger]

You know, I really don't buy what Burke said about the offers he received at the trade deadline. I think that was just Burke talking out of his behind. There's no way somebody offered a first round draft pick for Reimer.

Did he actually say that? Only thing I recall was a reference to an offer that wasn't good enough, don't recall hearing any details.

The thing that should be most bothersome, if those comments are true, is that Burke isn't interested in a player 3 years away, I figured after last years deadline he saw the relative merits of both the rebuild and the re-tool. I mean, unless he really does have something up his sleeve that's going to really turn them around talent wise, it's tough for me to buy in.

It could also just be hot air, not any more convincing that way either though.

 

[Zee]

You know, I really don't buy what Burke said about the offers he received at the trade deadline. I think that was just Burke talking out of his behind. There's no way somebody offered a first round draft pick for Reimer.

Did he actually say that? Only thing I recall was a reference to an offer that wasn't good enough, don't recall hearing any details.

The thing that should be most bothersome, if those comments are true, is that Burke isn't interested in a player 3 years away, I figured after last years deadline he saw the relative merits of both the rebuild and the re-tool. I mean, unless he really does have something up his sleeve that's going to really turn them around talent wise, it's tough for me to buy in.

It could also just be hot air, not any more convincing that way either though.

I don't recall the name being Reimer for a first, I think it was the entire 2nd line of MacArthur, Grabovski and Kulemin and Schenn that were the 4 players.

 

[Tigger]

I heard those names too but never Reimer for a first, even then, when Gaustad goes for a first I'd be slightly insulted by the rest of those so called offers on their own.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I heard those names too but never Reimer for a first, even then, when Gaustad goes for a first I'd be slightly insulted by the rest of those so called offers on their own.

Yeah, my bad. Burke said that he turned down a "strong" offer for Reimer just before the deadline, but never said it was a first round draft pick. Even then, I still don't buy it.