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Sarge said:
I said I wasn't going to pay much attention to "the list" but absent much else to look forward to, I've been looking a bit. I know drafting a goalie in the 1first round is sometimes a risky thing to do but I wouldn't mind if the Leafs drafted Andrei Vasilevski or Malcolm Subban. It would nice to have a stud goaltending prospect in here (even if he was a few years away.) -Though I'd suppose we'd be trading down several spots to do so.

At this point, that would mean trading down close to 20 spots before taking either of them stops looking like a real reach. One of them will probably be available for the Leafs in the 2nd round.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Sarge said:
I said I wasn't going to pay much attention to "the list" but absent much else to look forward to, I've been looking a bit. I know drafting a goalie in the 1first round is sometimes a risky thing to do but I wouldn't mind if the Leafs drafted Andrei Vasilevski or Malcolm Subban. It would nice to have a stud goaltending prospect in here (even if he was a few years away.) -Though I'd suppose we'd be trading down several spots to do so.

I think trading down and giving up a top-5 pick would be absolutely insane considering the lack of top-end talent in our prospect pool. I mean, this could be the highest we pick since 1989. And even if we don't get into the top-4, there's still some very good players available. If Burke could grab a pick in the 20s then I wouldn't mind grabbing one of those goalies, but the only direction our first should be going is up.

I suppose it's all rather moot until we know exactly where we're drafting but my point remains... I'd like a blue-chip goalie prospect in here... Someone we can get excited about like when we had Potvin. 
 
bustaheims said:
Sarge said:
I said I wasn't going to pay much attention to "the list" but absent much else to look forward to, I've been looking a bit. I know drafting a goalie in the 1first round is sometimes a risky thing to do but I wouldn't mind if the Leafs drafted Andrei Vasilevski or Malcolm Subban. It would nice to have a stud goaltending prospect in here (even if he was a few years away.) -Though I'd suppose we'd be trading down several spots to do so.

At this point, that would mean trading down close to 20 spots before taking either of them stops looking like a real reach. One of them will probably be available for the Leafs in the 2nd round.

If that's true, all the better.
 
Sarge said:
bustaheims said:
Sarge said:
I said I wasn't going to pay much attention to "the list" but absent much else to look forward to, I've been looking a bit. I know drafting a goalie in the 1first round is sometimes a risky thing to do but I wouldn't mind if the Leafs drafted Andrei Vasilevski or Malcolm Subban. It would nice to have a stud goaltending prospect in here (even if he was a few years away.) -Though I'd suppose we'd be trading down several spots to do so.

At this point, that would mean trading down close to 20 spots before taking either of them stops looking like a real reach. One of them will probably be available for the Leafs in the 2nd round.

If that's true, all the better.

Even if it doesn't look like they'll be around in the 2nd, it would make a lot more sense to trade up 10 spots with our 2nd round pick then down 20 with the first.
 
Sarge said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Sarge said:
I said I wasn't going to pay much attention to "the list" but absent much else to look forward to, I've been looking a bit. I know drafting a goalie in the 1first round is sometimes a risky thing to do but I wouldn't mind if the Leafs drafted Andrei Vasilevski or Malcolm Subban. It would nice to have a stud goaltending prospect in here (even if he was a few years away.) -Though I'd suppose we'd be trading down several spots to do so.

I think trading down and giving up a top-5 pick would be absolutely insane considering the lack of top-end talent in our prospect pool. I mean, this could be the highest we pick since 1989. And even if we don't get into the top-4, there's still some very good players available. If Burke could grab a pick in the 20s then I wouldn't mind grabbing one of those goalies, but the only direction our first should be going is up.

I suppose it's all rather moot until we know exactly where we're drafting but my point remains... I'd like a blue-chip goalie prospect in here... Someone we can get excited about like when we had Potvin.

We had Pogge!
 
Chazz-Micheal Liles said:
Sarge said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Sarge said:
I said I wasn't going to pay much attention to "the list" but absent much else to look forward to, I've been looking a bit. I know drafting a goalie in the 1first round is sometimes a risky thing to do but I wouldn't mind if the Leafs drafted Andrei Vasilevski or Malcolm Subban. It would nice to have a stud goaltending prospect in here (even if he was a few years away.) -Though I'd suppose we'd be trading down several spots to do so.

I think trading down and giving up a top-5 pick would be absolutely insane considering the lack of top-end talent in our prospect pool. I mean, this could be the highest we pick since 1989. And even if we don't get into the top-4, there's still some very good players available. If Burke could grab a pick in the 20s then I wouldn't mind grabbing one of those goalies, but the only direction our first should be going is up.

I suppose it's all rather moot until we know exactly where we're drafting but my point remains... I'd like a blue-chip goalie prospect in here... Someone we can get excited about like when we had Potvin.

We had Pogge!

You mean Rask?
 
Sarge said:
I suppose it's all rather moot until we know exactly where we're drafting but my point remains... I'd like a blue-chip goalie prospect in here... Someone we can get excited about like when we had Potvin.

I'm not so sure there really are blue-chip goalie prospects, really. I mean, goalies are such hard prospects to read and so many of the better goalies in the league have come from near the very end of the draft . . . really, until a goalie has a good chunk or pro experience under their belt, it's not really worth getting excited about them. The last thing the Leafs need is to use a first round pick on the next Eric Fichaud.
 
bustaheims said:
Sarge said:
I suppose it's all rather moot until we know exactly where we're drafting but my point remains... I'd like a blue-chip goalie prospect in here... Someone we can get excited about like when we had Potvin.

I'm not so sure there really are blue-chip goalie prospects, really. I mean, goalies are such hard prospects to read and so many of the better goalies in the league have come from near the very end of the draft . . . really, until a goalie has a good chunk or pro experience under their belt, it's not really worth getting excited about them. The last thing the Leafs need is to use a first round pick on the next Eric Fichaud.

It's part of why I'd be hesitant but again, I'd like to have some buzz surrounding a goalie. If it doesn't happen this year, fine... Movin' on.
 
Sarge said:
It's part of why I'd be hesitant but again, I'd like to have some buzz surrounding a goalie. If it doesn't happen this year, fine... Movin' on.

Well, there's always Owuya or Rynnas . . .
 
Sarge said:
bustaheims said:
Sarge said:
I suppose it's all rather moot until we know exactly where we're drafting but my point remains... I'd like a blue-chip goalie prospect in here... Someone we can get excited about like when we had Potvin.

I'm not so sure there really are blue-chip goalie prospects, really. I mean, goalies are such hard prospects to read and so many of the better goalies in the league have come from near the very end of the draft . . . really, until a goalie has a good chunk or pro experience under their belt, it's not really worth getting excited about them. The last thing the Leafs need is to use a first round pick on the next Eric Fichaud.

It's part of why I'd be hesitant but again, I'd like to have some buzz surrounding a goalie. If it doesn't happen this year, fine... Movin' on.

I know how we can get some buzz going...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPuqj7bCHdE
 
Omallley said:
Sarge said:
bustaheims said:
Sarge said:
I suppose it's all rather moot until we know exactly where we're drafting but my point remains... I'd like a blue-chip goalie prospect in here... Someone we can get excited about like when we had Potvin.

I'm not so sure there really are blue-chip goalie prospects, really. I mean, goalies are such hard prospects to read and so many of the better goalies in the league have come from near the very end of the draft . . . really, until a goalie has a good chunk or pro experience under their belt, it's not really worth getting excited about them. The last thing the Leafs need is to use a first round pick on the next Eric Fichaud.

It's part of why I'd be hesitant but again, I'd like to have some buzz surrounding a goalie. If it doesn't happen this year, fine... Movin' on.

I know how we can get some buzz going...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPuqj7bCHdE

:)
 
CarltonTheBear said:
A quick look at the potential prospects that could be available when the Leafs step up to the podium on draft day:

http://thehockeywriters.com/at-the-draft-table-toronto-maple-leafs/

Personally, assuming both Yakupov and Grigorenko are off the table I'm hoping for Galchenyuk. The injury is concerning, but we've seen guys in recent drafts get picked after missing plenty of time and it doesn't appear to have hampered their careers so far (Connolly and Cowen).

I'm sorry to say this but are the 3 Russian's committed to the NHL?

The KHL is becoming more and more an influence.

Edit. Here I go again getting hopes up (this time for the potential Top
draft pick). I should just think nothing and emotionally check out as if I do get jazzed, we're sure to go on our famous last 10 game winning streak and foul up our pick. Just another kick to my Leaf knackers.  :-\
 
CarltonTheBear said:
A quick look at the potential prospects that could be available when the Leafs step up to the podium on draft day:

http://thehockeywriters.com/at-the-draft-table-toronto-maple-leafs/

Personally, assuming both Yakupov and Grigorenko are off the table I'm hoping for Galchenyuk. The injury is concerning, but we've seen guys in recent drafts get picked after missing plenty of time and it doesn't appear to have hampered their careers so far (Connolly and Cowen).

Hodgson as well.
 
lamajama said:
I'm sorry to say this but are the 3 Russian's committed to the NHL?

The KHL is becoming more and more an influence.

It's always a looming threat, but so far they've been doing and saying the right things. All 3 have spent at least a year in North America playing in the CHL already. So it's not like there will be any contract issues in Russia to deal with.

Also, Galchenyuk is actually American-born, but he's spent some time living all over Europe because his dad played hockey there. It seems like he's spent the last 3 years in North America though.
 
Potvin29 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
A quick look at the potential prospects that could be available when the Leafs step up to the podium on draft day:

http://thehockeywriters.com/at-the-draft-table-toronto-maple-leafs/

Personally, assuming both Yakupov and Grigorenko are off the table I'm hoping for Galchenyuk. The injury is concerning, but we've seen guys in recent drafts get picked after missing plenty of time and it doesn't appear to have hampered their careers so far (Connolly and Cowen).

Hodgson as well.

I was looking at players with pre-draft injuries, but yeah you're right.
 
Sarge said:
Who knows... We might just trade the pick all together for an established player.

Jake Gardiner's NCAA dman partner might be available:
http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2012/3/12/2866036/schultz-watch-officially-begins
Some feel he's better than Jake - good oofensive dman. With the Anaheim connection, I could see Burke interested trying to cut the process off before he becomes a UFA if he doesn't want to sign with Anaheim or going after him if he elects UFA status. He's another dman Burke drafted.

A number feel he's NHL ready now though he'd probably go through a season like Jake has - with some rough patches. But it is a way for Burke to accelerate the retooling/rebuild without a complete mortgage for a older player because he's closer to being NHL ready.

The problem with this deal, if Burke trades, is that he'd be breaking in another inexperienced dman next season when he's under pressure to make the playoffs.  without the goaltending resolved, that could make next season a real challenge for Burke to survive.
 
Ducks and Habs both got a point last night.

Leafs still sitting to pick 7th, but they are just 3 points from the 4th pick and 3 points from the 3rd overall pick.

 
Fanatic said:
Ducks and Habs both got a point last night.

Leafs still sitting to pick 7th, but they are just 3 points from the 4th pick and 3 points from the 3rd overall pick.

Probably end up 3rd overall so we miss out on the top 2 prizes.
 

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