• For users coming over from tmlfans.ca your username will remain the same but you will need to use the password reset feature (check your spam folder) on the login page in order to set your password. If you encounter issues, email Rick couchmanrick@gmail.com

Randy Carlyle/Leaf Coach thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
Everybody has a role to play and I thnk RC is playing the odds nicely.
I'd rather have more JVR/Kessel on the ice for PP and more Kuli/Komarov for PK.

As shown last game:
PP 4:10 min
JVR 2:31
Kessel 2:59

PK 6 min
Kuli 2:57
Komarov 1:32 *Leo sat 2 min of this

For sure I agree with RC that the best bet would be as many minutes to Kessel and JVR as they can handle.

Still, Kuli and Komarov must add some even strength goals.  They are good skaters and even starting a lot of faceoffs in the defensive zone, if you are getting 14-16 min per night you must have more than 1 or 2 goals in 28 games.
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/anyone-stop-randy-carlyle-ruining-maple-leafs-trending-135244372--nhl.html

Maybe a bit on the extreme side but he summarizes a lot of what we have all been saying.  I certainly don't agree that Holzer, Kostka and Fraser are useless.  My beef has been how he allocates ice time and his lineup decisions.  I love have RC actually has a system and because of that I am a RC hater by any means.  I like the guy, he just aggravates me to no end, but hey I take that over RW and the fly by the seat of your pants approach any day of the week.
 
I understand the Kadri thing. He's playing 3rd line minutes against 3rd line opponents and having them for breakfast. Start playing him 19 minutes against 1st line opponents and perhaps he doesn't do so well? Carlyle is trying to insulate him and give him room to grow. The power play thing however, is inexcusable.
 
That's the way I see it too. It's the lack of power play time that confuses me. Otherwise, his minutes make sense. I've considered that his success could partly be because of his minutes rather than despite his minutes.
 
To get a better perspective on how dramatically has changed the usage of Grabbo and Kuli here is a link to a very impressive visualisation:

Grabbo:
http://somekindofninja.com/nhl/usage.php?f1=2012_s%2B2012_p%2B2011_s%2B2011_p%2B2010_s%2B2010_p%2B2009_s%2B2009_p%2B2008_s%2B2008_p%2B2007_s%2B2007_p&f2=5v5&f3=Mikhail+Grabovski&f5=TOR&f4=&f7=&bubbleType=corsiOn&yAxis=relQoc&update-filters=Update+Results

Kuli
http://somekindofninja.com/nhl/usage.php?f1=2012_s%2B2012_p%2B2011_s%2B2011_p%2B2010_s%2B2010_p%2B2009_s%2B2009_p%2B2008_s%2B2008_p%2B2007_s%2B2007_p&f2=5v5&f3=Nikolai+Kulemin&f5=TOR&f4=&f7=&bubbleType=corsiOn&yAxis=relQoc&update-filters=Update+Results

I mean honestly, the shift is so dramatic that to expect them to match the last year or year before production is plain stupid. If their production worsened 4x it would be justifiable by this graph (the quality of the opposition doubled as well as their def zone starts), which is not the case. In a way, one can argue that they are actually overachieving.

 
Bottom line with Carlyle is that the early-season defensive improvements have regressed, for whatever reason.  This exposes his less-than-brilliant offensive coaching, especially his TOI decisions.  There is no way in hell that Colton Orr should be getting significant minutes, and it's long past time to shuffle Grabs' lines to get him going.  Not to mention skipping over your highest-paid forward in a 9-round SO.
 
That's it everyone, I've figured it out. It all makes sense now. Carlyle is a spy for Brian Burke. And this is his way of getting back at MLSE.

Stay with me here. When was the last time Carlyle's line-up decisions made any kind of sense? Last season when Burke was still the teams GM. Gardiner was getting 20+ minutes a night. He seemed to genuinly want to play Kadri. Our shutdown line had actual shut down players on it. What's more likely? That Carlyle just lost his mind during the lockout, or that he and Brian are in cahoots?

I can't believe that we didn't see this sooner.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
That's it everyone, I've figured it out. It all makes sense now. Carlyle is a spy for Brian Burke. And this is his way of getting back at MLSE.

Stay with me here. When was the last time Carlyle's line-up decisions made any kind of sense? Last season when Burke was still the teams GM. Gardiner was getting 20+ minutes a night. He seemed to genuinly want to play Kadri. Our shutdown line had actual shut down players on it. What's more likely? That Carlyle just lost his mind during the lockout, or that he and Brian are in cahoots?

I can't believe that we didn't see this sooner.
Click to expand...

I see no flaw with your logic.  It's a testament to how good this team is that they're still in a playoff spot despite Carlyle's attempts to sabotage the team.  Rumor is he's stepping it up to "phase 2" soon with Colton Orr getting 22 minutes/night and the experiment of Holzer playing wing while Kessel sits.
 
Its practice, two days before the game, we've seen combinations in practice that have never made into game action on several occasions.
 
This Colton Orr thing is a bit mindblowing. He can't skate and can't handle the puck. Like, at all.  These are desperate times.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

About Us

This website is NOT associated with the Toronto Maple Leafs or the NHL.


It is operated by Rick Couchman and Jeff Lewis.
Back
Top