Randy Carlyle/Leaf Coach thread

[Champ Kind]

We should get The Rock to be one of our assistants.

I was thinking more along the lines of Hans and Franz.

You are? 

 

[LuncheonMeat]

CBC mentioned this was Hichcock's last year in St Louis and he hasn't re upped yet. Could it be that MLSE were waiting for the Blues to exit and then poach Hichcock?

Just for fun, could the Leafs talk to him right now?  Does his contract expire when the team is eliminated for the season?

 

[bustaheims]

We should get The Rock to be one of our assistants.

I was thinking more along the lines of Hans and Franz.

You are? 

The team needs motivation, and they're here to pump you up.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Just for fun, could the Leafs talk to him right now?  Does his contract expire when the team is eliminated for the season?

His contract would have an end date. Usually for coaches it's either June 1st or June 30th I think. So the Leafs would need St. Louis' permission to talk to him before that. Which if they announce that they won't be extending his contract obviously wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Corn Flake]

Scott Stevens as head coach? Wow never thought of that. So many different emotions come up thinking of what it would be like to have him in that role here.

I don't think he would ever leave NJ. He's tied to Lou's hip.

I would be surprised if the Blues let Hitch go. That team is built completely around his style of play.

 

[Optimus Reimer]

Scott Stevens as head coach? Wow never thought of that. So many different emotions come up thinking of what it would be like to have him in that role here.

I don't think he would ever leave NJ. He's tied to Lou's hip.

I would be surprised if the Blues let Hitch go. That team is built completely around his style of play.

As mc mentioned earlier Hitchcock is the type of coach the Leafs need and with the Blues being eliminated, they may see a need to have a new coach in place to get the Blues over the next hurdle so he he may become expendable to the Blues and available to the Leafs.

 

[Rebel_1812]

Why is that? Do you expect Stevens to lay out corporal punishment?

Illegal elbows and hits to the head for everyone!

That may be the thing that some people within the organization will need....a good wakeup call. 

Definitely.  Concussions totally don't hurt your brain.

so long as you don't go to sleep right afterward you don't even need to worry about a coma.

 

[Kaberle15]

I'm still stuned to see RC last that long.

 

[Optimus Reimer]

I'm still stuned to see RC last that long.

I would have let him go at the end of the season and let the media speculate for weeks as who the new coach will be.  It would have given Carlyle an opportunity to start searching for other coaching positions as I am sure there would be a GM out there who would like to see his goalies overworked and his defensemen bad mouthed in public.

 

[Zee]

Scott Stevens as head coach? Wow never thought of that. So many different emotions come up thinking of what it would be like to have him in that role here.

I don't think he would ever leave NJ. He's tied to Lou's hip.

I would be surprised if the Blues let Hitch go. That team is built completely around his style of play.

As mc mentioned earlier Hitchcock is the type of coach the Leafs need and with the Blues being eliminated, they may see a need to have a new coach in place to get the Blues over the next hurdle so he he may become expendable to the Blues and available to the Leafs.

We can only hope.  I wanted them to hire Hitchcock after he was canned in Columbus after the 2009/2010 season.  He wasn't hired in St. Louis until November of 2011, so the Leafs could have fired Wilson after the 2010-2011 season in April (his 3rd full season) and hired Hitch then.

 

[Redleaf]

Scott Stevens as head coach? Wow never thought of that. So many different emotions come up thinking of what it would be like to have him in that role here.

I don't think he would ever leave NJ. He's tied to Lou's hip.

I would be surprised if the Blues let Hitch go. That team is built completely around his style of play.

As mc mentioned earlier Hitchcock is the type of coach the Leafs need and with the Blues being eliminated, they may see a need to have a new coach in place to get the Blues over the next hurdle so he he may become expendable to the Blues and available to the Leafs.

We can only hope.  I wanted them to hire Hitchcock after he was canned in Columbus after the 2009/2010 season.  He wasn't hired in St. Louis until November of 2011, so the Leafs could have fired Wilson after the 2010-2011 season in April (his 3rd full season) and hired Hitch then.

It kind of makes me wonder why an accomplished guy, with a winning record over his career would want to come to this organization after looking at what happened to the last two guys that tried to make a difference in Toronto.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Scott Stevens as head coach? Wow never thought of that. So many different emotions come up thinking of what it would be like to have him in that role here.

I don't think he would ever leave NJ. He's tied to Lou's hip.

I would be surprised if the Blues let Hitch go. That team is built completely around his style of play.

As mc mentioned earlier Hitchcock is the type of coach the Leafs need and with the Blues being eliminated, they may see a need to have a new coach in place to get the Blues over the next hurdle so he he may become expendable to the Blues and available to the Leafs.

We can only hope.  I wanted them to hire Hitchcock after he was canned in Columbus after the 2009/2010 season.  He wasn't hired in St. Louis until November of 2011, so the Leafs could have fired Wilson after the 2010-2011 season in April (his 3rd full season) and hired Hitch then.

It kind of makes me wonder why an accomplished guy, with a winning record over his career would want to come to this organization after looking at what happened to the last two guys that tried to make a difference in Toronto.

What happened to the last two guys that would make someone else not want to come here?

 

[Redleaf]

Scott Stevens as head coach? Wow never thought of that. So many different emotions come up thinking of what it would be like to have him in that role here.

I don't think he would ever leave NJ. He's tied to Lou's hip.

I would be surprised if the Blues let Hitch go. That team is built completely around his style of play.

As mc mentioned earlier Hitchcock is the type of coach the Leafs need and with the Blues being eliminated, they may see a need to have a new coach in place to get the Blues over the next hurdle so he he may become expendable to the Blues and available to the Leafs.

We can only hope.  I wanted them to hire Hitchcock after he was canned in Columbus after the 2009/2010 season.  He wasn't hired in St. Louis until November of 2011, so the Leafs could have fired Wilson after the 2010-2011 season in April (his 3rd full season) and hired Hitch then.

It kind of makes me wonder why an accomplished guy, with a winning record over his career would want to come to this organization after looking at what happened to the last two guys that tried to make a difference in Toronto.

What happened to the last two guys that would make someone else not want to come here?

Nothing. They paraded through the streets as champions. :

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Scott Stevens as head coach? Wow never thought of that. So many different emotions come up thinking of what it would be like to have him in that role here.

I don't think he would ever leave NJ. He's tied to Lou's hip.

I would be surprised if the Blues let Hitch go. That team is built completely around his style of play.

As mc mentioned earlier Hitchcock is the type of coach the Leafs need and with the Blues being eliminated, they may see a need to have a new coach in place to get the Blues over the next hurdle so he he may become expendable to the Blues and available to the Leafs.

We can only hope.  I wanted them to hire Hitchcock after he was canned in Columbus after the 2009/2010 season.  He wasn't hired in St. Louis until November of 2011, so the Leafs could have fired Wilson after the 2010-2011 season in April (his 3rd full season) and hired Hitch then.

It kind of makes me wonder why an accomplished guy, with a winning record over his career would want to come to this organization after looking at what happened to the last two guys that tried to make a difference in Toronto.

What happened to the last two guys that would make someone else not want to come here?

Nothing. They paraded through the streets as champions. :

So what?  They didn't have success with the team, they were either fired or, in Carlyle's case, not fired yet.  That's pretty much the deal when you hire a coach, they know that.  Wilson, even if I prefer him to Carlyle, had multiple seasons with the Leafs.  They know it's a results-based business.  If it is an experienced coach, then chances are the only reason they would be able to come to the Leafs is because they've been fired.  Won't make any difference.

 

[Redleaf]

Scott Stevens as head coach? Wow never thought of that. So many different emotions come up thinking of what it would be like to have him in that role here.

I don't think he would ever leave NJ. He's tied to Lou's hip.

I would be surprised if the Blues let Hitch go. That team is built completely around his style of play.

As mc mentioned earlier Hitchcock is the type of coach the Leafs need and with the Blues being eliminated, they may see a need to have a new coach in place to get the Blues over the next hurdle so he he may become expendable to the Blues and available to the Leafs.

We can only hope.  I wanted them to hire Hitchcock after he was canned in Columbus after the 2009/2010 season.  He wasn't hired in St. Louis until November of 2011, so the Leafs could have fired Wilson after the 2010-2011 season in April (his 3rd full season) and hired Hitch then.

It kind of makes me wonder why an accomplished guy, with a winning record over his career would want to come to this organization after looking at what happened to the last two guys that tried to make a difference in Toronto.

What happened to the last two guys that would make someone else not want to come here?

Nothing. They paraded through the streets as champions. :

So what?  They didn't have success with the team, they were either fired or, in Carlyle's case, not fired yet.  That's pretty much the deal when you hire a coach, they know that.  Wilson, even if I prefer him to Carlyle, had multiple seasons with the Leafs.  They know it's a results-based business.  If it is an experienced coach, then chances are the only reason they would be able to come to the Leafs is because they've been fired.  Won't make any difference.

I suspect, like most individuals in their careers, have a reputation they would like to maintain. If given the choice, I would assume most GMs would prefer to go to a team that is winning now, and is not necessarily a reclamation project.

 

[Peter D.]

It kind of makes me wonder why an accomplished guy, with a winning record over his career would want to come to this organization after looking at what happened to the last two guys that tried to make a difference in Toronto.

I think the answer is within itself here.  The allure to try and make a difference in a city like Toronto I'm sure drives certain coaches.

 

[Kin]

I suspect, like most individuals in their careers, have a reputation they would like to maintain. If given the choice, I would assume most GMs would prefer to go to a team that is winning now, and is not necessarily a reclamation project.

How many job vacancies do winning teams tend to have?

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Scott Stevens as head coach? Wow never thought of that. So many different emotions come up thinking of what it would be like to have him in that role here.

I don't think he would ever leave NJ. He's tied to Lou's hip.

I would be surprised if the Blues let Hitch go. That team is built completely around his style of play.

As mc mentioned earlier Hitchcock is the type of coach the Leafs need and with the Blues being eliminated, they may see a need to have a new coach in place to get the Blues over the next hurdle so he he may become expendable to the Blues and available to the Leafs.

We can only hope.  I wanted them to hire Hitchcock after he was canned in Columbus after the 2009/2010 season.  He wasn't hired in St. Louis until November of 2011, so the Leafs could have fired Wilson after the 2010-2011 season in April (his 3rd full season) and hired Hitch then.

It kind of makes me wonder why an accomplished guy, with a winning record over his career would want to come to this organization after looking at what happened to the last two guys that tried to make a difference in Toronto.

What happened to the last two guys that would make someone else not want to come here?

Nothing. They paraded through the streets as champions. :

So what?  They didn't have success with the team, they were either fired or, in Carlyle's case, not fired yet.  That's pretty much the deal when you hire a coach, they know that.  Wilson, even if I prefer him to Carlyle, had multiple seasons with the Leafs.  They know it's a results-based business.  If it is an experienced coach, then chances are the only reason they would be able to come to the Leafs is because they've been fired.  Won't make any difference.

I suspect, like most individuals in their careers, have a reputation they would like to maintain. If given the choice, I would assume most GMs would prefer to go to a team that is winning now, and is not necessarily a reclamation project.

Generally, with a few exceptions, if a team is winning now they aren't going to be firing their coach.  If they are, there are likely to be some serious issues the coach will have to deal with regardless.

 

[pmrules]

Hitchcock?

If he couldn't get the Blues out of the first round 2 years in a row with the goalies and defensemen he did have, what chance does he have with the [sarcasm] defensive gems [/sarcasm] that we currently have?

 

[mc]

If they are indeed going to fire him, do it already. They man needs to start looking for another job - have they forgotten that?

Or come out and give him a vote of confidence that he ain't going no where.