Coco-puffs
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Frank E said:
Um. I don't think the problem is 3rd pair Right D... the problem is 1st pair Right D.
(ie, Rielly - ???? , Gardiner - Zaitsev, Dermott - Hainsey would be fine if the ??? was solved)
Ranking Prospects 2018-19
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Um. I don't think the problem is 3rd pair Right D... the problem is 1st pair Right D.
(ie, Rielly - ???? , Gardiner - Zaitsev, Dermott - Hainsey would be fine if the ??? was solved)
Frank E
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Coco-puffs said:
Oh I agree, and I think I've posted many times in my support for getting a top pairing RHD...like dozens of times like pretty much everyone here.
I just get the feeling that they aren't going to do anything about that spot, and we'll have Hainsey filling in there again, unfortunately, which means that last RHD spot is probably going to be a rotating cast of borderline NHLers.
Ideally that 3rd pairing is Dermott - Hainsey.
herman
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Coco-puffs
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Frank E said:
I think the solution to our top pair woes is to forget about handedness and play the following top 4:
Dermott/Gardiner - Rielly
Dermott/Gardiner - Zaitsev
And then the bottom pair is Hainsey + someone who can move the puck up the ice (again, handedness be damned). Options are Carrick, Ozhighanov, Borgman, Rosen. Hainsey can play either side.
herman said:
Preferably one wearing a CSKA jersey.
https://twitter.com/Pammerhockey/status/1032310849610887170
Not sure there's going to be enough minutes to spare on the Marlies, so sounds like Sandin will be playing overseas next season.
Not sure there's going to be enough minutes to spare on the Marlies, so sounds like Sandin will be playing overseas next season.
herman
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PPP: 8. Andreas Johnsson
Kapanen over Johnsson largely due to age and pedigree.
TLN: 12. Adam Brooks
Kapanen over Johnsson largely due to age and pedigree.
TLN: 12. Adam Brooks
herman
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PPP: 7. Timothy Liljegren
Guess who got ranked at his jersey number?
TLN: 11. Semyon Der-Arguchintsev
Guess who got ranked at his jersey number?
TLN: 11. Semyon Der-Arguchintsev
Coco-puffs
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Zee said:
Kapanen is 2 years younger so the prevailing thought would be Kapanen still has more time to grow his game. Most would consider them in the same tier and I bet the difference in ranking between these two is pretty tight
herman
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PPP: 6. Kasperi Kapanen
#NeverForget
As Kapanen has grown more accustomed to the NHL speed and skill and strength, he has realized that he can pull off more than he expected at first. Until the AHL, he has always played up and above his level, so there's that calibration period in his production stats. In the video linked above, you can see how he has gotten really good at using his speed to park his ass on defenders' hands to prevent them from actually defending against him (this goal too vs the Preds). He's less likely to go completely around players now, and would rather take a more direct route. He has learned to use his raw speed for speed change separation now, rather than just outright blowing by literally everyone (and thus having no support).
TLN: 10. Trevor Moore
#NeverForget
As Kapanen has grown more accustomed to the NHL speed and skill and strength, he has realized that he can pull off more than he expected at first. Until the AHL, he has always played up and above his level, so there's that calibration period in his production stats. In the video linked above, you can see how he has gotten really good at using his speed to park his ass on defenders' hands to prevent them from actually defending against him (this goal too vs the Preds). He's less likely to go completely around players now, and would rather take a more direct route. He has learned to use his raw speed for speed change separation now, rather than just outright blowing by literally everyone (and thus having no support).
TLN: 10. Trevor Moore
herman
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PPP: 5. Travis Dermott
When he was first drafted, I was just excited that our tradedowns netted multiple prospects with projectable skills; of the 3 (Dermott, Bracco, Dzierkals), Dermott was maybe the least exciting to me because it looked like he played a safe game shepherding a stacked forward corps (McDavid, Strome). His speed was middling but his vision looked capable; smooth without panic.
After a couple of years with Barb Underhill and getting targeted assignments on the Marlies, he has surpassed my middling expectations. He is very smart and aggressive without the puck, with the skills to pull off a lot of his riskier maneuvers (open-ice gap up pinches as the last man back!), and he can really carry it almost to Gardiner/Rielly levels. While the raw speed is not quite Rielly-level, his edgework and elusiveness is probably tops on the backend.
TLN: 9. Pierre Engvall
When he was first drafted, I was just excited that our tradedowns netted multiple prospects with projectable skills; of the 3 (Dermott, Bracco, Dzierkals), Dermott was maybe the least exciting to me because it looked like he played a safe game shepherding a stacked forward corps (McDavid, Strome). His speed was middling but his vision looked capable; smooth without panic.
After a couple of years with Barb Underhill and getting targeted assignments on the Marlies, he has surpassed my middling expectations. He is very smart and aggressive without the puck, with the skills to pull off a lot of his riskier maneuvers (open-ice gap up pinches as the last man back!), and he can really carry it almost to Gardiner/Rielly levels. While the raw speed is not quite Rielly-level, his edgework and elusiveness is probably tops on the backend.
TLN: 9. Pierre Engvall
herman said:
I have to agree here. Dermott caught me by complete surprise. The Leafs didn't get into a real groove until Marner got going and Dermott drew into the lineup. I was kind of against the pick at the time thinking he wasn't going to amount to much but I'm pretty glad we have him.
herman
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herman
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PPP:
T2: William Nylander
T2: Mitch Marner
Drammaaaaaaaa averted.
I kind of saw this coming based on the way the schedule shook out, but I had a sliver of a guess that voters might lean towards Marner due to recency and age.
TLN: 7. Dymytro Timashov
T2: William Nylander
T2: Mitch Marner
Drammaaaaaaaa averted.
I kind of saw this coming based on the way the schedule shook out, but I had a sliver of a guess that voters might lean towards Marner due to recency and age.
TLN: 7. Dymytro Timashov
What an absolute cop-out. I want my money back.