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The Shanaplan - Building the Leafs Toward Stanley Cup Contention

Bullfrog said:
TBLeafer said:
+/- 85 points is where I see this team next season. A core will need at least a full season to gel before it is in position to contend. I would need to see Stamkos added to take the bet for playoffs next season. Even then I would do it nervously as I only see them at around +/- 90 points with him added.

What exactly do you mean by "contend"? For a playoff spot or for a championship?

Playoffs.  But anything can happen in the playoffs as recent history has shown us, an 8th seeded team can suddenly run hot all the way to the championship.
 
TBLeafer said:
Bullfrog said:
TBLeafer said:
+/- 85 points is where I see this team next season. A core will need at least a full season to gel before it is in position to contend. I would need to see Stamkos added to take the bet for playoffs next season. Even then I would do it nervously as I only see them at around +/- 90 points with him added.

What exactly do you mean by "contend"? For a playoff spot or for a championship?

Playoffs.  But anything can happen in the playoffs as recent history has shown us, an 8th seeded team can suddenly run hot all the way to the championship.
Theres always a chance but its more of an anomaly than a rule. Also I'm sure theres some advanced stats belying their final position.
 
TBLeafer said:
Bullfrog said:
TBLeafer said:
+/- 85 points is where I see this team next season. A core will need at least a full season to gel before it is in position to contend. I would need to see Stamkos added to take the bet for playoffs next season. Even then I would do it nervously as I only see them at around +/- 90 points with him added.

What exactly do you mean by "contend"? For a playoff spot or for a championship?

Playoffs.  But anything can happen in the playoffs as recent history has shown us, an 8th seeded team can suddenly run hot all the way to the championship.

Are you referring to the LA Kings run?
 
Tigger said:
TBLeafer said:
Bullfrog said:
TBLeafer said:
+/- 85 points is where I see this team next season. A core will need at least a full season to gel before it is in position to contend. I would need to see Stamkos added to take the bet for playoffs next season. Even then I would do it nervously as I only see them at around +/- 90 points with him added.

What exactly do you mean by "contend"? For a playoff spot or for a championship?

Playoffs.  But anything can happen in the playoffs as recent history has shown us, an 8th seeded team can suddenly run hot all the way to the championship.

Are you referring to the LA Kings run?

That would be one of them, yeah.
 
TBLeafer said:
Playoffs.  But anything can happen in the playoffs as recent history has shown us, an 8th seeded team can suddenly run hot all the way to the championship.

All of one 8th seeded team has won the Cup since the league introduced conference based playoff seeds, and all of 2 have made the Final.
 
bustaheims said:
TBLeafer said:
Playoffs.  But anything can happen in the playoffs as recent history has shown us, an 8th seeded team can suddenly run hot all the way to the championship.

All of one 8th seeded team has won the Cup since the league introduced conference based playoff seeds, and all of 2 have made the Final.

Yeah, I think they started to turn the league onto puck possession.  :)
 
Holy jump the gun.

I'm all for hoping things go better for the Leafs sooner than I expect them to. I'm optimistic that Leafs management has begun a significant course correction that will (again, I'm hoping) see them become a contender several years from now.

Given the amount of damage that's been done to the team by Nonis, Burke, Fletcher 2.0 all the way back to JFJ I can see why patience runs thin. But building a Cup contending team? It's not going to happen overnight.

There are finally some prospects with elite potential entering the Leafs system. That's a great start, but that's all it is.
 
TBLeafer said:
Tigger said:
TBLeafer said:
Bullfrog said:
TBLeafer said:
+/- 85 points is where I see this team next season. A core will need at least a full season to gel before it is in position to contend. I would need to see Stamkos added to take the bet for playoffs next season. Even then I would do it nervously as I only see them at around +/- 90 points with him added.

What exactly do you mean by "contend"? For a playoff spot or for a championship?

Playoffs.  But anything can happen in the playoffs as recent history has shown us, an 8th seeded team can suddenly run hot all the way to the championship.

Are you referring to the LA Kings run?

That would one of them, yeah.

C'mon, just don't.
 
corsi fenwick said:
Holy jump the gun.

I'm all for hoping things go better for the Leafs sooner than I expect them to. I'm optimistic that Leafs management has begun a significant course correction that will (again, I'm hoping) see them become a contender several years from now.

Given the amount of damage that's been done to the team by Nonis, Burke, Fletcher 2.0 all the way back to JFJ I can see why patience runs thin. But building a Cup contending team? It's not going to happen overnight.

There are finally some prospects with elite potential entering the Leafs system. That's a great start, but that's all it is.

I'm not.  Did I actually make any kind of comparison other than to say "its been done"?  Its a fact.  Its been done, but I never suggested that feat could ever be repeated by the Shanaplan Leafs.
 
We're perilously close to the point where whoever owns the rights to the word "plan" is going to be filing for a restraining order.
 
[tweet]746538901104386049[/tweet]
"Brendan put a plan in place, we call it the Shanny Plan." - Lou.
Brendan bursts out laughing. "I can't believe you said that."

Can we rename the thread?
 
herman said:
[tweet]746538901104386049[/tweet]
"Brendan put a plan in place, we call it the Shanny Plan." - Lou.
Brendan bursts out laughing. "I can't believe you said that."

Can we rename the thread?

I like it better as the "Shanaplan".    ☺
 
TBLeafer said:
corsi fenwick said:
Holy jump the gun.

I'm all for hoping things go better for the Leafs sooner than I expect them to. I'm optimistic that Leafs management has begun a significant course correction that will (again, I'm hoping) see them become a contender several years from now.

Given the amount of damage that's been done to the team by Nonis, Burke, Fletcher 2.0 all the way back to JFJ I can see why patience runs thin. But building a Cup contending team? It's not going to happen overnight.

There are finally some prospects with elite potential entering the Leafs system. That's a great start, but that's all it is.

I'm not.  Did I actually make any kind of comparison other than to say "its been done"?  Its a fact.  Its been done, but I never suggested that feat could ever be repeated by the Shanaplan Leafs.

My comment was directed toward the article you linked and it's author.

If I'm replying directly to anybody on this forum, I will always quote their post in my reply. Unless I forget. And then, please do call me on it.
 
I guess this belongs here...:

How Shanahan?s ?Shanaplan? is fixing the Maple Leafs

Brendan Shanahan wants to make one thing clear: He?s not celebrating the season that was.

No backslapping. No big pronouncements. Not really much of anything from the Toronto Maple Leafs president, who insists he hopes to remain a man behind the scenes as much as possible, allowing his high-profile hires to do the talking.

But two years after Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment made a controversial bet on Shanahan ? who had never worked for an NHL team in any capacity ? what he will say is that he feels the Leafs are ahead of where he expected them to be.

He has a top coach in Mike Babcock, with a Stanley Cup and Olympic-gold pedigree. He has an experienced general manager in his 73-year-old mentor Lou Lamoriello, working on transactions. He has an up-and-coming executive in Kyle Dubas, managing the minor leagues (where the Toronto Marlies finished at the top of the standings), a renowned bird dog in director of player personnel in Mark Hunter and a cap guru in Brandon Pridham.

After the weekend, Shanahan also has 18-year-old wunderkind Auston Matthews, the projected star centre the Leafs selected first overall at the entry draft in Buffalo.

It?s a start.

(more in article)
 

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