Guru Tugginmypuddah
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Deebo said:
Probably still better than Hutch.
2019-2020 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion
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Probably still better than Hutch.
Hobbes
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Too young to be put in the pressure-cooker? How about Ken Dryden then? He looks like he can still lift a catching glove. I'd have gone with Johnny Bower but sadly that's no longer an option (and it wouldn't be politically correct to say that Johnny is still probably better than Hutch).Rob said:
Highlander
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Clip of Johny T over at the Athletic taking skating drills from Barb Underhill. Very impressive to see the work he is putting in at 29. Nice to see that even him at 29 can still learn new stuff.
disco
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If you had to free up space somewhere in order to upgrade the Leafs 2nd goalie, where would you subtract from? The Leafs are getting excellent value from their league-minimum forwards, and there's nothing to indicate that Dubas won't continue doing that moving forward, with marlies, KHL signings, and "legacy" deals (Spezza).
Forwards making above league-minimum (not named Auston Marnlandavares):
Kerfoot ($3.5-million)
Johnsson ($3.4-million)
Kapanen ($3.2-million)
Hyman ($2.25-million)
The player that, being moved, would hurt the Leafs the least I believe would be Kerfoot. With Spezza settling into 3C, and Gauthier, Petan and Shore options at centre (all making league-minimum).
Forwards making above league-minimum (not named Auston Marnlandavares):
Kerfoot ($3.5-million)
Johnsson ($3.4-million)
Kapanen ($3.2-million)
Hyman ($2.25-million)
The player that, being moved, would hurt the Leafs the least I believe would be Kerfoot. With Spezza settling into 3C, and Gauthier, Petan and Shore options at centre (all making league-minimum).
herman said:
Keefe has pretty much come in and changed every single thing that the Leafs fanbase (and probably Dubas) wished Babcock did in like the span of a week. The one thing that's remained constant is their use of Ceci. That reinforces my belief that Dubas is a Ceci-truther.
Guilt Trip
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I would probably move CC but going by your list, I'll disagree with you..Spezza, while I like him, is not a 3rd line permanent centre option. Kerfoot is the future 3rd line centre for us. Goat and Shore are nothing more then 4th line centres. Petan I think could move up the line up but as a winger only. Hyman is the logical choice to go. $2.25M for a checking forward is too much to pay in this day and age of the NHL.disco said:
herman said:
I'm not saying that he's here long-term. But I've tried to argue for awhile now that Dubas acquired him for a purpose, he wasn't just forced on him. And even under Keefe he's playing 23 minutes a night. I just don't think anyone in the organization views him as trade bait to acquire a back-up goalie.
edit: I'm also not sure what you mean by playing with Muzzin. Unless I'm mistaken, the Rielly-Ceci pairing has still been getting the top match-ups, not Muzzin's.
Highlander
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I would prefer to see Engvall as our 3rd line centre, if this means moving Kerfoot to the wing so be it. 4th line this year can be Timashov-Spezza-GoatmanGuilt Trip said:
I also wonder where Moore will fit in upon his return, I wonder if he was playing injured the last 8 games as his game was not the same in the last little span of play.
Frank E
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CarltonTheBear said:
Well, to be honest with you, I'm still reeling from the TMLfans effort rankings report. So I don't really have an answer for this. My confidence is all shot to hell.
If I did have an answer, it would be ride Andersen until they can acquire a back-up.
This team isn't built to play stifling defense for long stretches...they'll score a lot of goals, but they'll need goaltending to get wins.
Frank E said:
You waiting a week to respond really just reinforces your spot on the rankings.
Frank E said:
I guess if Dubas is reasonably certain he can acquire a back-up goalie in the next 2 weeks, saying frick it and giving Andersen both starts this week wouldn't be the end of the world. But I just can't see that happening on a consistent basis.
As an aside, would it kind of suck if Hutchinson actually plays really well on Wednesday? Does that delay or even halt Dubas' search for a new back-up goalie even though it's almost certainly still something the team would need?
Highlander
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Not till Saturday at the earliest and that came from my crystal ball