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2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion

Who will captain the Toronto Maple Leafs in 2019?

  • William Nylander

    Votes: 20 60.6%
  • John Tavares

    Votes: 3 9.1%
  • Morgan Rielly

    Votes: 6 18.2%
  • Mitch Marner

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No one

    Votes: 4 12.1%

  • Total voters
    33
I think the  number 1 priority in the offseason (other than signing Marner to something "reasonable") is to try to move Marleau. I know he has the no movement clause but he did say something in his exit interview that gave some hope that he might consider it (something about we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it) . If we can cut that contract a lot of other stuff becomes easier. We can keep Kadri, move Nylander with Matthews where he belongs, and probably keep both Johnsson and Kapanen (and/or maybe Gardiner provided his back isn't going to be a chronic problem). Or we can move someone and try to acquire another good dman.

If we can't do that, I'd still rather keep Kadri and put Nylander back with Matthews. It's obvious that Kapanen doesn't have the same kind of complementary game that Nylander does for Matthews. I'm on the fence about whether to move Kappy or Johnsson if one has to go. Maybe it depends on which brings the better return in a trade (Kappy I would guess).

Brown can go. Goat can go. Don't know if Engvall is ready to step in but can he be much more  useless than Goat? Don't care about Zaitsev but I doubt he's going anywhere.
 
I was leaning toward trade-Kadri if the Leafs lost to Boston when he was initially suspended, but I don't think there's much of a chance of that anymore. He's just impossible to replace right now, especially with our cap concerns.
 
Bender said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I mean Holl was on his farm team for 3 years, including last season where he was a top pairing defenceman on a championship team. I can't really buy that he was more familiar with Oz than Holl.

Yeah. I think he just saw more upside in Oz - at least in terms of how Babcock wants his defence to play. I also thought Oz looked pretty decent early, but, as the season wore on, it became clear he wasn?t an everyday player.

Anyone who did any prior research would've told you Oz wasn't going to stick. Not sure why Leafs brass thought he would.
It's a hard deal on any player coming over from the big ice to play here. I thought Oz did pretty much as expected a player could do in that circumstance. It was worth a shot even tho it didn't work out. Best of luck to him.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I was leaning toward trade-Kadri if the Leafs lost to Boston when he was initially suspended, but I don't think there's much of a chance of that anymore. He's just impossible to replace right now, especially with our cap concerns.
Kadri stays. Willy may have more upside offensively then Kadri, but Kadri is the better all around centre right now and is on a very team friendly contract. Nylander needs to get on Matthews' line so we can truly have a 1-2 punch.
 
Chris said:
I think the  number 1 priority in the offseason (other than signing Marner to something "reasonable") is to try to move Marleau. I know he has the no movement clause but he did say something in his exit interview that gave some hope that he might consider it (something about we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it) . If we can cut that contract a lot of other stuff becomes easier. We can keep Kadri, move Nylander with Matthews where he belongs, and probably keep both Johnsson and Kapanen (and/or maybe Gardiner provided his back isn't going to be a chronic problem). Or we can move someone and try to acquire another good dman.

If we can't do that, I'd still rather keep Kadri and put Nylander back with Matthews. It's obvious that Kapanen doesn't have the same kind of complementary game that Nylander does for Matthews. I'm on the fence about whether to move Kappy or Johnsson if one has to go. Maybe it depends on which brings the better return in a trade (Kappy I would guess).

Brown can go. Goat can go. Don't know if Engvall is ready to step in but can he be much more  useless than Goat? Don't care about Zaitsev but I doubt he's going anywhere.

Yeah, my trade ideas are predicated on Marleau coming back.  Which he will, with one possible exception, which is if SJ is willing to take him back to retire a Shark.  I don't see him agreeing to go anywhere else, and I don't see SJ being interested, because they can see like anyone else that he's done.  Most likely he'll be back, and play out the string.  But it should be on the 4th line, and that where Babcock has to be willing to do what's needed, even if it is to a HOF guy.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Are we going to use this thread to discuss who gets traded?  I am.

The #1 priority is bolstering the defense.  We have a very capable goalie who could potentially be elite with a defense that doesn't give up so many high-grade chances.

The #2 priority is the same as the #1 priority.

I'd say Muzzin checks off the #2 box.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Chris said:
I think the  number 1 priority in the offseason (other than signing Marner to something "reasonable") is to try to move Marleau. I know he has the no movement clause but he did say something in his exit interview that gave some hope that he might consider it (something about we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it) . If we can cut that contract a lot of other stuff becomes easier. We can keep Kadri, move Nylander with Matthews where he belongs, and probably keep both Johnsson and Kapanen (and/or maybe Gardiner provided his back isn't going to be a chronic problem). Or we can move someone and try to acquire another good dman.

If we can't do that, I'd still rather keep Kadri and put Nylander back with Matthews. It's obvious that Kapanen doesn't have the same kind of complementary game that Nylander does for Matthews. I'm on the fence about whether to move Kappy or Johnsson if one has to go. Maybe it depends on which brings the better return in a trade (Kappy I would guess).

Brown can go. Goat can go. Don't know if Engvall is ready to step in but can he be much more  useless than Goat? Don't care about Zaitsev but I doubt he's going anywhere.

Yeah, my trade ideas are predicated on Marleau coming back.  Which he will, with one possible exception, which is if SJ is willing to take him back to retire a Shark.  I don't see him agreeing to go anywhere else, and I don't see SJ being interested, because they can see like anyone else that he's done.  Most likely he'll be back, and play out the string.  But it should be on the 4th line, and that where Babcock has to be willing to do what's needed, even if it is to a HOF guy.
Yup. Babs needs to sit down with him, tell him hes a gud pro and all that crap but the plan going forward, it could change depending on his play, is to have him no further up then the 3rd line and they will have to watch his ice closely. That could involve him being a healthy scratch. Lay it all out for him and if he's fine with that, they move on and we see what next season brings. Maybe he can become a Pk specialist?? If he's not fine with it, then you could move him.
Now having said all that, I don't think Babs will do this. Cap hit not counting, I have no problem with Marleau as a 4th line guy.
 
Bullfrog said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Are we going to use this thread to discuss who gets traded?  I am.

The #1 priority is bolstering the defense.  We have a very capable goalie who could potentially be elite with a defense that doesn't give up so many high-grade chances.

The #2 priority is the same as the #1 priority.

I'd say Muzzin checks off the #2 box.
I think they improve from within. By all accounts Sandin has been unreal and could be ready next year. We know Liljegren will get a shot as will Rosen. A lot will hinge around on what they do with Zaitsev.
 
if the Sharks win the Cup, wouldn?t Marleau feel he made a mistake to jump ship to the Leafs?  What irony that would be for a guy who ?s team was supposed to expectedly advance but flunked in the post-season (Leafs), versus a former team (Sharks) that would be  eventual Cup winners not expectedly.

Just wondering.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I was leaning toward trade-Kadri if the Leafs lost to Boston when he was initially suspended, but I don't think there's much of a chance of that anymore. He's just impossible to replace right now, especially with our cap concerns.

Nylander.  Then we just need a winger or two to play with Nylander.
 
AvroArrow said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I was leaning toward trade-Kadri if the Leafs lost to Boston when he was initially suspended, but I don't think there's much of a chance of that anymore. He's just impossible to replace right now, especially with our cap concerns.

Nylander.  Then we just need a winger or two to play with Nylander.

The issue wouldn't be finding wingers for Nylander, it'd be finding wingers for Matthews.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/TheFlintor/status/1121784877161037824
Oh man, Marleau lmao

I stopped watching the Office before the Zaitsev clip so I didn't know what was about to happen and I don't remember the last time I laughed that hard.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/TheFlintor/status/1121784877161037824
Oh man, Marleau lmao

I stopped watching the Office before the Zaitsev clip so I didn't know what was about to happen and I don't remember the last time I laughed that hard.

I died so hard I?m now a wight.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
AvroArrow said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I was leaning toward trade-Kadri if the Leafs lost to Boston when he was initially suspended, but I don't think there's much of a chance of that anymore. He's just impossible to replace right now, especially with our cap concerns.

Nylander.  Then we just need a winger or two to play with Nylander.

The issue wouldn't be finding wingers for Nylander, it'd be finding wingers for Matthews.

We don't like Johnsson and Kapanen there?

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Johnsson - Matthews - Kapanen
?? - Nylander - ??
?? - ?? - ??

Lots of people were asking for Moore with Nylander.  That's 1 option.  But we don't have much for the right side... Maybe a signing like Brett Connolly?

Moore - Nylander - Connolly
 
AvroArrow said:
We don't like Johnsson and Kapanen there?

No, I absolutely don't want a repeat of Mats Sundin's career. Matthews deserves to play with another star player, you're limiting his playing potential otherwise.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
AvroArrow said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I was leaning toward trade-Kadri if the Leafs lost to Boston when he was initially suspended, but I don't think there's much of a chance of that anymore. He's just impossible to replace right now, especially with our cap concerns.

Nylander.  Then we just need a winger or two to play with Nylander.

The issue wouldn't be finding wingers for Nylander, it'd be finding wingers for Matthews.
Ding ding ding...winner!
 
hockeyfan1 said:
if the Sharks win the Cup, wouldn?t Marleau feel he made a mistake to jump ship to the Leafs?  What irony that would be for a guy who ?s team was supposed to expectedly advance but flunked in the post-season (Leafs), versus a former team (Sharks) that would be  eventual Cup winners not expectedly.

Just wondering.
Who says the Sharks wanted him back? I don't think they did because if they offered anything remotely close to what the Leaf did, he doesn't leave.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
AvroArrow said:
We don't like Johnsson and Kapanen there?

No, I absolutely don't want a repeat of Mats Sundin's career. Matthews deserves to play with another star player, you're limiting his playing potential otherwise.

I?ve been pondering if the Leafs should try Kadri on the wing and try to find 3C that also can PK. have Kadri and Nylander flank Matthews, and have Johnsson and Kapanen on the 3rd line with the new guy.
 

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