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Significantly Insignificant said:I hate the Nylander argument because it's just not the right argument.
Nylander is a gifted hockey player who is able to affect the outcome of a game all by himself. He has been the Leafs most consistent performer in the playoffs over their last three playoffs. So this idea that he is soft and doesn't show up in big games is completely made up in my mind.
Now does Nylander take some nights off in December, January, and February, and is it more noticeable when Nylander takes a night off? I would say that they answer to those questions is yes. But I am willing to live with that because until the Leafs start missing the playoffs, Nylander isn't the problem.
Joe said:I?m willing to bet every player in the nhl does not play at 100% every freaking game.
I?m willing to bet none of us give 100% 100% of the time in any aspect of our lives.
lamajama said:Sheldon is also quick to point out when he has a "night off"....more so than any other <cough cough> Leaf...
hobarth said:Back in the day there was a rumor that TO offered Stamkos 13 plus mil. per year , he eventually settled for $8.5 mil. with TB, that's around a 5 mil. $ difference, that didn't entice Stamkos who is a Markham boy. TO also promised him added revenue for advertising $s with Cdn Tire and others, again rumored, that $20 mil. per year was the ultimate figure.
Joe said:I?m willing to bet every player in the nhl does not play at 100% every freaking game.
I?m willing to bet none of us give 100% 100% of the time in any aspect of our lives.
Significantly Insignificant said:Joe said:I?m willing to bet every player in the nhl does not play at 100% every freaking game.
I?m willing to bet none of us give 100% 100% of the time in any aspect of our lives.
I will fully admit that I have mailed it in on some of my posts.
Joe said:Significantly Insignificant said:Joe said:I?m willing to bet every player in the nhl does not play at 100% every freaking game.
I?m willing to bet none of us give 100% 100% of the time in any aspect of our lives.
I will fully admit that I have mailed it in on some of my posts.
Floater!!
bustaheims said:As for the rest of your post, you just can't compare Toronto to markets like Calgary/Edmonton/etc. The reason players don't want to go out west has nothing to do with it being in Canada. It's the cities themselves. Lots of players have teams in smaller cities on both sides of the border on their no trade lists. Players mostly had Toronto on their lists when the Leafs were bad and poorly managed. You don't hear about many who have Toronto specifically on their lists now. Let's not make the Tkachuk/Gaudreau thing into an issue that includes the Leafs, because there's no good evidence that it's true.
bustaheims said:hobarth said:Back in the day there was a rumor that TO offered Stamkos 13 plus mil. per year , he eventually settled for $8.5 mil. with TB, that's around a 5 mil. $ difference, that didn't entice Stamkos who is a Markham boy. TO also promised him added revenue for advertising $s with Cdn Tire and others, again rumored, that $20 mil. per year was the ultimate figure.
Whoever started that rumour is completely out of touch with the actual payout for sponsorships in Canada. No one in the league earns $6.5M a year. Not even McDavid or Crosby. Absolutely unrealistic.
As for the rest of your post, you just can't compare Toronto to markets like Calgary/Edmonton/etc. The reason players don't want to go out west has nothing to do with it being in Canada. It's the cities themselves. Lots of players have teams in smaller cities on both sides of the border on their no trade lists. Players mostly had Toronto on their lists when the Leafs were bad and poorly managed. You don't hear about many who have Toronto specifically on their lists now. Let's not make the Tkachuk/Gaudreau thing into an issue that includes the Leafs, because there's no good evidence that it's true.
hobarth said:bustaheims said:hobarth said:Back in the day there was a rumor that TO offered Stamkos 13 plus mil. per year , he eventually settled for $8.5 mil. with TB, that's around a 5 mil. $ difference, that didn't entice Stamkos who is a Markham boy. TO also promised him added revenue for advertising $s with Cdn Tire and others, again rumored, that $20 mil. per year was the ultimate figure.
Whoever started that rumour is completely out of touch with the actual payout for sponsorships in Canada. No one in the league earns $6.5M a year. Not even McDavid or Crosby. Absolutely unrealistic.
As for the rest of your post, you just can't compare Toronto to markets like Calgary/Edmonton/etc. The reason players don't want to go out west has nothing to do with it being in Canada. It's the cities themselves. Lots of players have teams in smaller cities on both sides of the border on their no trade lists. Players mostly had Toronto on their lists when the Leafs were bad and poorly managed. You don't hear about many who have Toronto specifically on their lists now. Let's not make the Tkachuk/Gaudreau thing into an issue that includes the Leafs, because there's no good evidence that it's true.
30 years and counting, you must think that Canadian teams have been inept and more than likely will continue to be for some unknown reason.
There is evidence, that I pointed out, I believe there was even an unofficial poll of NHL players with modified NMCs in their contracts and the vast majority of quality players from below the border said they included all Canadian teams in the teams they didn't want to play for.
I'm not sure where you came up with $6.5 mil. theory, how would you know this?
Tavares and Kane are outliers, TO usually attracts the Spezzas/Thorntons/Mogilnys/Giordanos, players at or near the end of their careers. If TO was an American team I wonder how much less AM, MM, JT would've settled for in their last contracts. I understand that the $13.5 I believe Stamkos was offered works out to only a small amount less take home than he's currently making.
That's an incredible disadvantage for Canadian teams, something that should be addressed by the NHL. Personally, I think there should be a Cap for Canadian teams that's separate from American teams.
hobarth said:I'm not sure where you came up with $6.5 mil. theory, how would you know this?
hobarth said:Tavares and Kane are outliers, TO usually attracts the Spezzas/Thorntons/Mogilnys/Giordanos, players at or near the end of their careers.
hobarth said:If TO was an American team I wonder how much less AM, MM, JT would've settled for in their last contracts. I understand that the $13.5 I believe Stamkos was offered works out to only a small amount less take home than he's currently making.
princedpw said:I agree that teams in high-tax areas are at a disadvantage as $10M on the cap from a Florida team gives a player more than $10M from a Canadian team, or, say, the Rangers. It's a subtle difference, but it seems to have made a significant difference to the team Tampa was able to pay for the last couple of years. Given that the Leafs, Habs, and Rangers make a huge percentage of the league surplus revenues, it is certainly an annoying penalty. I wish the cap adjusted for this somehow, but it seems extremely difficult due to the volume and complexity of tax laws. The simpler solution is to soften up the cap a little (which would soften though not eliminate differences in taxation). But of course that's never going to happen.
clark17 said:Athletes aren?t taxed lower than the average joe. It?s just that all states allow you to write off loan / mortgage interest and then some have little or no state tax. When you combine those advantages it?s not easy to choose Canada where you?re net income will be 20-25 % lower ?.if it was the other way around Bettman would have a adjusted cap in place to even out the advantages. He doesn?t care when the US prospers !