No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.
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CarltonTheBear said:No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.
CarltonTheBear said:No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.
CarltonTheBear said:No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.
bustaheims said:CarltonTheBear said:No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.
Do we have a mediocre defenceman who is nowhere as valuable we can send over for him? Like, I dunno, Zaitsev?
OldTimeHockey said:Or Gardiner who we're going to lose for nothing because it's highly unlikely we can afford him.
bustaheims said:OldTimeHockey said:Or Gardiner who we're going to lose for nothing because it's highly unlikely we can afford him.
If the Leafs trade Zaitsev, they could be able to afford Gardiner.
If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.Guilt Trip said:And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
Zee said:If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.Guilt Trip said:And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
We can only hopeZee said:If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.Guilt Trip said:And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
Zaitsev shouldn't be a 2nd pair dman either so you knowAvroArrow said:Zee said:If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.Guilt Trip said:And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
Let's be realistic, though. Best case is he slots in on the 3rd pair, not 2nd.
AvroArrow said:But do we really wanna make that right side worse? I'm no Zaitsev fan, but i think the right side is better with him, than without him.
Guilt Trip said:And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner.
I'm pretty sure this now is the eternal game plan. Just the Kessel and Aintsey money coming off the books this year affords a reasonable offer for Jake, room for Liljegren, and maybe Ros?n or another standout at pretty much a wash for the next two years. I think Babber's "you can't train size" philosophy guarantees we see a lot of Ozhiganov and Marincin, which is fine by me so far. All this seems pretty doable, even if Jake's looking for Shattenkirk money. Now, i might be in the camp that believes Gardiner gets a bit too much of the Larry Murphy treatment, and yes i know what happened in April, but where would his replacement come from? He's not the first defenceman to have a terminal case of Bonehead Manouevre Propensity Syndrome, but his hockey IQ is pretty good, and he's never stopped improving. Even if this is peak Jake, whatchya gonna do, let him walk and pick up Justin Faulk at the cost of pick stability? Keeping Jake is a no-brainer, until someone like Doughty decides the Kings are 2000-and-late.Zee said:If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.Guilt Trip said:And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
CarltonTheBear said:https://twitter.com/HabsLaughs/status/1057311286801895425