Armchair GM 2018-2019

[CarltonTheBear]

No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.

 

[herman]

No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.

I want him before they sign him to an overbearingly expensive long term deal though.

 

[Zee]

No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.

Funny thing was that draft year, Poolparty was the slam dunk consensus #3 pick but Columbus passed on him and went with Pierre Luc-Dubois instead.  They seem to have known what they were doing as Dubois had 48 points last season.  He's outperforming Poolparty so far.

 

[bustaheims]

No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.

Do we have a mediocre defenceman who is nowhere as valuable we can send over for him? Like, I dunno, Zaitsev?

 

[OldTimeHockey]

No way Edmonton trades him yet. Come on be realistic people. They'll wait and destroy his value for another 2 years or so and then do it.

Do we have a mediocre defenceman who is nowhere as valuable we can send over for him? Like, I dunno, Zaitsev?

Or Gardiner who we're going to lose for nothing because it's highly unlikely we can afford him.

 

[bustaheims]

Or Gardiner who we're going to lose for nothing because it's highly unlikely we can afford him.

If the Leafs trade Zaitsev, they could be able to afford Gardiner.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Or Gardiner who we're going to lose for nothing because it's highly unlikely we can afford him.

If the Leafs trade Zaitsev, they could be able to afford Gardiner.

Quit making sense. It ruins my Saturday

 

[AvroArrow]

But do we really wanna make that right side worse?  I'm no Zaitsev fan, but i think the right side is better with him, than without him.

 

[Guilt Trip]

And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.

 

[Zee]

And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.

If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.

 

[AvroArrow]

And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.

If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.

Let's be realistic, though.  Best case is he slots in on the 3rd pair, not 2nd.

 

[Guilt Trip]

And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.

If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.

We can only hope

 

[Zee]

And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.

If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.

Let's be realistic, though.  Best case is he slots in on the 3rd pair, not 2nd.

Zaitsev shouldn't be a 2nd pair dman either so you know

 

[bustaheims]

But do we really wanna make that right side worse?  I'm no Zaitsev fan, but i think the right side is better with him, than without him.

Keep the more talented blue liner every time, and that?s Gardiner by a mile.

 

[bustaheims]

And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner.

That?s debatable. Jake may make more big mistakes, but his ability to move the puck adds more defensive value than anything Zaitsev has shown.

 

[Foreign Corresppondent]

And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.

If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.

I'm pretty sure this now is the eternal game plan. Just the Kessel and Aintsey money coming off the books this year affords a reasonable offer for Jake, room for Liljegren, and maybe Ros?n or another standout at pretty much a wash for the next two years. I think Babber's "you can't train size" philosophy guarantees we see a lot of Ozhiganov and Marincin, which is fine by me so far. All this seems pretty doable, even if Jake's looking for Shattenkirk money. Now, i might be in the camp that believes Gardiner gets a bit too much of the Larry Murphy treatment, and yes i know what happened in April, but where would his replacement come from? He's not the first defenceman to have a terminal case of Bonehead Manouevre Propensity Syndrome, but his hockey IQ is pretty good, and he's never stopped improving. Even if this is peak Jake, whatchya gonna do, let him walk and pick up Justin Faulk at the cost of pick stability? Keeping Jake is a no-brainer, until someone like Doughty decides the Kings are 2000-and-late.

Jake is our bird in hand. 6.5m is fair and doable.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/YakovMironov/status/1056909320074420224

Gauthier for Gagner (with Vancouver retaining 50% of his cap).

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/BrettCyrgalis/status/1057278899774803968
https://twitter.com/TLNdc/status/1055531964944474112

I would absolutely take a flier on one of these two team-stifled, offensively-creative RWs at the lowest of their possible value.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/HabsLaughs/status/1057311286801895425

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/HabsLaughs/status/1057311286801895425

It me!