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I am as sympathetic as the next person but what you said is literally not what most people in the field have said about mixing AZ & MRNA.Highlander said:
https://twitter.com/BogochIsaac/status/1394764660130385923?s=19
I get you're anxious and all that but you can't just keep saying things that are just factually untrue.
Highlander
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This is from the article yesterday in the Sun, (just so you know I didn't make this s__t up) after this I will not speak on the subject again;
Like a spoiled child, Canada is sitting on more than 600,000 AZ shots. Public health officials don?t want them, but they?re not letting anyone else have them.
In a stunning interview last weekend, CTV?s Evan Solomon spoke to Sir John Bell, regius professor at Oxford University. He developed the AZ vaccine and says early results from pick ?n? mix studies show there are seriously bad reactions when the Pfizer and Moderna MrNA vaccines are mixed with the AZ viral vector shots.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/blizzard-stop-messing-around-and-give-me-my-second-astrazeneca-shot
Like a spoiled child, Canada is sitting on more than 600,000 AZ shots. Public health officials don?t want them, but they?re not letting anyone else have them.
In a stunning interview last weekend, CTV?s Evan Solomon spoke to Sir John Bell, regius professor at Oxford University. He developed the AZ vaccine and says early results from pick ?n? mix studies show there are seriously bad reactions when the Pfizer and Moderna MrNA vaccines are mixed with the AZ viral vector shots.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/blizzard-stop-messing-around-and-give-me-my-second-astrazeneca-shot
https://twitter.com/CTVNews/status/1394793712555864067
Highlander said:
The issue you're conflating is reactions. There are acceptable reactions and not acceptable reactions. A reaction on its own isn't a problem its the degree of reaction. So far the reactions have been fairly mild and there is a good immune response. This is ultimately what we want.
I have no problem with people who got AZ to stick with AZ but considering the clotting issue and how much more mRna we have it makes sense to offload or use AZ as a second dose where possible and give everyone else mRna, especially with the state India is in where the vaccine is manufactured. I do agree that hoarding vaccines that we won't use (and will likely let expire) is not an ethical move.
Kin
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First off, the concern about AZ use isn't unique to this country. The US, for instance, I still don't think has approved it's use and has millions of doses of it.
But I think the most important thing here is the pathetically desperate way the Sun is trying to attribute this to "the Feds". The Federal Government isn't deciding policy on individual vaccine use, provinces are. It's why policy on AZ use isn't uniform. Right now the reason for the backlog is because there isn't a consistent supply of AZ and provinces are primarily worried about getting people their first shots. If it turns out they don't want to mix vaccines, then they had to halt the rollout of AZ because you don't want to give people the first shot and then not know if you'll get enough AZ to give a second of it.
I appreciate there are some people who want to turn everything into partisan squabbling but at this point in the pandemic you'd think that people would at least understand the difference between Federal and Provincial responsibilities.
But I think the most important thing here is the pathetically desperate way the Sun is trying to attribute this to "the Feds". The Federal Government isn't deciding policy on individual vaccine use, provinces are. It's why policy on AZ use isn't uniform. Right now the reason for the backlog is because there isn't a consistent supply of AZ and provinces are primarily worried about getting people their first shots. If it turns out they don't want to mix vaccines, then they had to halt the rollout of AZ because you don't want to give people the first shot and then not know if you'll get enough AZ to give a second of it.
I appreciate there are some people who want to turn everything into partisan squabbling but at this point in the pandemic you'd think that people would at least understand the difference between Federal and Provincial responsibilities.
Personal Support Worker Day 2020:
https://twitter.com/fordnation/status/1262759988126027787
Personal Support Worker Day 2021:
https://twitter.com/fordnation/status/1395076980773736449
I get this isn't the biggest scandal or anything, but come on.
https://twitter.com/fordnation/status/1262759988126027787
Personal Support Worker Day 2021:
https://twitter.com/fordnation/status/1395076980773736449
I get this isn't the biggest scandal or anything, but come on.
I literally thought the same thing! Were on the same wavelength here.L K said:
If you want to do attack ads I don't want to see it between levels of govt and definitely not when other provinces are doing much better compared to us due to provincial health measures/handling.
Heroic Shrimp
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https://twitter.com/RzstProgramming/status/1398096459900329988
Heroic Shrimp
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https://twitter.com/bruce_arthur/status/1398787510151618560
Highlander
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Had our first jab on April 13 of AZ. Looks like we will get the 2nd Jab within 2 weeks and probably be Pfizer. They don't be to concerned about the mix.
Guilt Trip
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That's good news.L K said:
Stronger Than All
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A strange thing. I got the AZ jab May 8th. and the hand on the arm where I got the jab. the bottom oy my hand and picky still feel numb and tingly. Such a weird side effect. I called the doctor and the on call nurse said maybe they hit a nerve with the needle. I dont know. I'm supposed to call back if it doesn't get better.
https://twitter.com/GraphicMatt/status/1400154265960599553