bustaheims
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Zee said:
Basically. And, outside of a couple potential moves made by teams trying to get value for players they have to expose, I wouldn't really expect anything interested from now until the trade freeze, either.
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Basically. And, outside of a couple potential moves made by teams trying to get value for players they have to expose, I wouldn't really expect anything interested from now until the trade freeze, either.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Have we commented on the cap being $75 million next year per Mirtle?
bustaheims
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
No, because, right now, he's the only one using that number, and it's still fairly speculative.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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bustaheims said:
Given his track record I'd be very surprised if he went public with it, without having a fairly cast iron source.
bustaheims
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Well, he did qualify it as being likely rather than being a sure thing. He gave himself an out.
EDIT: And, for the record, I'm not saying I think he's wrong. More that, all things considered, I'm not sure his assertion merits much discussion at this point.
I absolutely loved this statement from McPhee yesterday:
?The Golden Knights organization is very pleased with how the expansion draft process has gone so far, through the NHL trade freeze which took effect Saturday, June 17 at 12 noon PT. Now, General Manager George McPhee and his staff will continue to have discussions with the other 30 NHL clubs. Vegas has indicated that they will give all 30 clubs every opportunity to keep their rosters intact if they?d like. This means that before the Golden Knights claim a player off a team?s unprotected list, McPhee and his staff are willing to negotiate deals so the other clubs do not lose a player they would otherwise like to keep.?
Absolutely the best way for Vegas to tackle this expansion draft, I just wasn't sure if they'd go that route. I'm a little surprised that we didn't see more teams try to trade guys that they're expecting to lose, but that means Vegas will have more of a chance to make deals with those teams that benefit them.
?The Golden Knights organization is very pleased with how the expansion draft process has gone so far, through the NHL trade freeze which took effect Saturday, June 17 at 12 noon PT. Now, General Manager George McPhee and his staff will continue to have discussions with the other 30 NHL clubs. Vegas has indicated that they will give all 30 clubs every opportunity to keep their rosters intact if they?d like. This means that before the Golden Knights claim a player off a team?s unprotected list, McPhee and his staff are willing to negotiate deals so the other clubs do not lose a player they would otherwise like to keep.?
Absolutely the best way for Vegas to tackle this expansion draft, I just wasn't sure if they'd go that route. I'm a little surprised that we didn't see more teams try to trade guys that they're expecting to lose, but that means Vegas will have more of a chance to make deals with those teams that benefit them.
Florida's list has leaked:
Barkov, Huberdeau, Trochek, Bjugstad, Ekblad, Yandle, Petrovic, Pysyk
That means that Jonathan Marchessault (30 goals last year), Reilly Smith (25 goals 2 seasons ago), Jason Demers, and James Reimer are all exposed. Interesting turn of events there as most predicted they'd go the 7-3-1 route and expose Petrovic and Pysyk.
Barkov, Huberdeau, Trochek, Bjugstad, Ekblad, Yandle, Petrovic, Pysyk
That means that Jonathan Marchessault (30 goals last year), Reilly Smith (25 goals 2 seasons ago), Jason Demers, and James Reimer are all exposed. Interesting turn of events there as most predicted they'd go the 7-3-1 route and expose Petrovic and Pysyk.
dappleganger
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The Arizona protected list is downright sad:
Protected
Nick Cousins (F)
Anthony Duclair (F)
Jordan Martinook (F)
Tobias Rieder (F)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson (D)
Alex Goligoski (D)
Connor Murphy (D)
Luke Schenn (D)
Chad Johnson (G)
Protected
Nick Cousins (F)
Anthony Duclair (F)
Jordan Martinook (F)
Tobias Rieder (F)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson (D)
Alex Goligoski (D)
Connor Murphy (D)
Luke Schenn (D)
Chad Johnson (G)
dappleganger
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CarltonTheBear said:
James Reimer is protected with Luongo exposed according to Sportsnet.
Jolly good show chaps
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Anaheim leave Vatanan unprotected. Initially was a bit disappointed the Leafs couldn't have got him for prospects/picks and Carrick or Marincin (under the assumption that Anaheim could have exposed whichever of those two instead).
But after thinking about it I'm guessing the only reason they left him unprotected was that they have done a side deal with Vegas not to take him.
But after thinking about it I'm guessing the only reason they left him unprotected was that they have done a side deal with Vegas not to take him.
louisstamos
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Jolly good show chaps said:
I'm fairly certain I read somewhere (I can't remember where) that the Ducks didn't have to ask Bieska to waive his NMC for protection because they do already have a side deal in place with VGK. I guess we'll find out what that was shortly.
Just realized that the Islanders had a pretty bizarre protection list:
Andrew Ladd
Anders Lee
John Tavares
Johnny Boychuk
Travis Hamonic
Nick Leddy
Adam Pelech
Ryan Pulock
Thomas Greiss
FIVE defenceman, three forwards, and a goalie.
Pelech is the shockingly bizarre one, especially since they have TWO better defenceman in Calvin de Haan and Thomas Hickey that were left unprotected. They also have a number of decent forwards available: Josh Bailey, Casey Cizikas, Cal Clutterbuck, Brock Nelson, and Ryan Strome.
Frank Seravalli says the Islanders have a deal worked out to keep Bailey and Cizikas away from Vegas, which again is bizarre since they aren't even the best players they left unavailable.
Andrew Ladd
Anders Lee
John Tavares
Johnny Boychuk
Travis Hamonic
Nick Leddy
Adam Pelech
Ryan Pulock
Thomas Greiss
FIVE defenceman, three forwards, and a goalie.
Pelech is the shockingly bizarre one, especially since they have TWO better defenceman in Calvin de Haan and Thomas Hickey that were left unprotected. They also have a number of decent forwards available: Josh Bailey, Casey Cizikas, Cal Clutterbuck, Brock Nelson, and Ryan Strome.
Frank Seravalli says the Islanders have a deal worked out to keep Bailey and Cizikas away from Vegas, which again is bizarre since they aren't even the best players they left unavailable.
herman
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In addition to the Islanders:
https://twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408
www.twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408
Source: the Frank Seravelli article Carlton referenced above: http://www.tsn.ca/mcphee-ready-for-bidding-war-on-exposed-players-1.782401
I assume there are 1st round picks going back for these 'steering' deals.
Petr Mrazek was exposed over the older Jimmy Howard due to havinga weird lack of vowels
'attitude issues'.
https://twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408
www.twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408
Source: the Frank Seravelli article Carlton referenced above: http://www.tsn.ca/mcphee-ready-for-bidding-war-on-exposed-players-1.782401
I assume there are 1st round picks going back for these 'steering' deals.
Petr Mrazek was exposed over the older Jimmy Howard due to having
'attitude issues'.
herman
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Options from the unprotected (and not confirmed side deal protected) lists that we can maybe acquire via Vegas' player laundering scheme:
L Nate Schmidt RFA
R Matt Dumba 2.55M until 2018
L Marco Scandella 4M until 2020
R Colin Miller 1M until 2018
L Calvin De Haan RFA
R Jason Demers 4.5M until 2021
L David Schlemko (better Hunwick) 2.1M until 2020
R Jake Dotchin (if only to protect our own players/prospects) RFA
L Nate Schmidt RFA
R Matt Dumba 2.55M until 2018
L Marco Scandella 4M until 2020
R Colin Miller 1M until 2018
L Calvin De Haan RFA
R Jason Demers 4.5M until 2021
L David Schlemko (better Hunwick) 2.1M until 2020
R Jake Dotchin (if only to protect our own players/prospects) RFA
herman said:
Who Vegas takes from Washington is one of the more interesting choices right now. Schmidt's a young, likely to be very affordable middle pairing defenceman. But they can also pick Philipp Grubauer, a 25-year old goalie who put up a .926 save percentage in 23 games last year with the Caps and has a .922 career save percentage in 66 NHL games. Grubauer would be a pretty good back-up/1B option behind Fleury.