Potential Expansion Draft Rules
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herman said:
This isn't even an "oh I want him to sign with the Leafs" type thing, but Tavares would be an absolute idiot if he re-signed with the Islanders without them doing something big like bringing in Duchene to support him. 8 seasons. 3 playoff appearances. They've made it out of the 1st round once.
herman
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CarltonTheBear said:
The thing I keep hearing about Tavares is how loyal he is. The Islanders would have to screw up/him something fierce to get him to jump ship. At the same time, he is crazy competitive (as 1st overalls and superstars often are).
I'd love to see him just Lebron or Durant it up while in his prime the way people hoped Stamkos would, but hockey culture is so conservative.
I've long been in the "this expansion draft won't give Vegas anything resembling a good team" camp, but there's a few guys that were left unprotected that surprised me. They could potential come away with a line-up looking like this:
Cammalleri-Staal-Marchessault
Neal-Shipachyov-Ryan
Perron-Plekanec-Stempniak
Enstrom-Manson
Schmidt-Miller
Fleury
Mrazek
With lots of options still available to them via free agency and lots of choices in the draft to fill out the bottom part of their line-up. I'm not saying that it'd be the RIGHT thing to do, but if they did want to try to be competitive they can take a stab at it.
Cammalleri-Staal-Marchessault
Neal-Shipachyov-Ryan
Perron-Plekanec-Stempniak
Enstrom-Manson
Schmidt-Miller
Fleury
Mrazek
With lots of options still available to them via free agency and lots of choices in the draft to fill out the bottom part of their line-up. I'm not saying that it'd be the RIGHT thing to do, but if they did want to try to be competitive they can take a stab at it.
herman said:
I liked my choice of words better.
herman said:
St. Louis is a team that immediately jumped to mind. They've always been missing that big 1C. Statsny's contract expires the same summer so that would immediately clear $7mil in cap space. I think if he wants a Cup that would be the best spot for him to look. Montreal and the Rangers would also take pretty big runs at him I'm sure. Him + Price or Lundqvist would make most teams a contender.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
On the surface, it doesn't look awful, but there are some caveats there. Enstrom, for instance, is out indefinitely with a concussion - and has been pretty mediocre for the last 3 seasons.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Per CJ the Leafs are still negotiating a potential trade with the GK, Lou wasn't subject to the informal trade freeze declared last night by McPhee because of travel issues he ran into.
#LoopholeLou
#LoopholeLou
louisstamos
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Whatever he has on Bettman *has* to be good!
Jolly good show chaps
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herman said:
Surely those steering deals went through beforehand (over the weekend or Monday) but havent been announced as per league decision and so can't be gazumped?
herman
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Jolly good show chaps said:
My understanding is that there are no rules or regulations governing the schedule of the steering deals Vegas might make with teams. The only thing is that Vegas needs to submit are their expansion draft picks by 10 am tomorrow.
McPhee said earlier in the week that no such deals are final and that he would give opportunities for every team to negotiate for their
I don't think that means McPhee will simply keep all lines open and circumvent those steering deals when the situation presents itself (those deals only get cashed in after the draft, right?), but if a delicious offer does come up for an unprotected player (e.g. Manson) from another team(s), if I were McPhee I'd bring that back to the originating team and ask them to bolster their steering efforts, cut a three-way deal, or simply take a knee on the play.
Edit: apparently, that's exactly what he's done.
https://www.nhl.com/news/column-golden-knights-hold-the-upper-hand-ahead-of-expansion-draft/c-289997332
Jolly good show chaps
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But (for example) would Anaheim have exposed Manson and Vatanen without a pre-arranged deal with Vegas made before they determined who they would eventually protect?
Jolly good show chaps said:
Yeah, in situations like that where there was a handshake agreement already completed prior to the lists being submitted there's no way Vegas would turn around and try to extort more from a team.
herman
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Why wouldn't you, if you were McPhee? He specifically said no deals were final. I'm pretty sure he's running this like a protection racket.
It's Anaheim's own dumb fault if they lose both their defensemen but won't pony up to protect them.
Edit: I can see VGK laying off Vatanen/Manson if Anaheim protected them with a top 50 pick and Sam Steel/Shea Theodore + random expansion pick, which is easy enough for Anaheim to give up but not so easy for poaching teams to meet.
It's Anaheim's own dumb fault if they lose both their defensemen but won't pony up to protect them.
Edit: I can see VGK laying off Vatanen/Manson if Anaheim protected them with a top 50 pick and Sam Steel/Shea Theodore + random expansion pick, which is easy enough for Anaheim to give up but not so easy for poaching teams to meet.